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The Cam-Cam Show: Cam Cameron for OC

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11-5 in 2008

9-7 in 2009

12-4 in 2010

12-4 in 2011

with him as OC... and you're gonna bitch as if what the Panthers have now is better?

That's more in part to John Harbaugh and the defense then it is to Cam Cameron and the offense.

2008- Ravens 18th in Total Offense

2009- Ravens 13th in Total Offense

2010- Ravens 22nd in Total Offense

2011- Ravens 15th in Total Offense

2012- Ravens 18th in Total Offense

The Ravens haven't had a top 10 offense since Cameron took over, the Panthers have had two seasons from 2008-2012 where they have had a top 10 offense.

Those records you posted are due to the fact that the Ravens know how to play great defense.

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Cam Cameron is a balanced coordinator. Ray Rice almost carried it 300 times last year and was over 300 the year before. All while the passing game was working really well. I think they were trying to lighten Rice's work load this season and it didn't quite work out the way Harbaugh wanted it.

You don't need to be balanced, you have Ray fricken Rice, you feed him the ball just like Houston feeds Arian Foster and Minnesota feeds Adrian Peterson. He is a top three running back, make him earn his money, and make him the work horse. It's not that difficult. On top of that Rice's backup Bernard Pierce is a pretty good ball carrier himself. With a line made up of Yanda, Oher, etc... run the damn ball.

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Yeah let's bring him in because we need an OC who under utilizes running backs.

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Pretty sure I heard that Ray Rice didn't have a single run in the 4th quarter last game.

Edit: oh it was the week before against the Steelers.

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Ray Rice is on pace for his 4th straight 1200-1300 yard rushing season. Ravens 9th in points scored this season.

Ravens are 9-4 and in control of thier division. Ravens have made the Palyoffs 4 straight years.

Cameron developed the "Small school" Flacco into a top NFL QB with 5 straight 3000 Yard passing seasons.

Tough crowd in Baltimore and here on the Huddle.

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Hate to break the news to you all but Ray Rice was in the same backfield as Willis McGahee from 2007 thru 2011, so this is the first year the Ravens have used basically one back.

And the Vikings/Adrian Peterson and the Texans/Arian Foster- who else runs the ball for those teams?

Career stats:

Peterson: 19.4 carries per game @ 4.9 YPC

Foster: 19.9 carries per game @ 4.4 YPC

Rice: 15.9 carries per game @ 4.5 YPC

McGahee: 11.2 carries per game @ 4.1 YPC from 2007-2011 alongside Ray Rice

So, at 4 fewer carries per game, you think they don't use him enough? Really? Just 4 more carries out of a football game that most teams play to about 50-60 offensive plays per game?

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We have fans wanting to bring in Cam Cameron and Norv Turner.

No wonder people make fun of us so much.

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You don't need to be balanced, you have Ray fricken Rice, you feed him the ball just like Houston feeds Arian Foster and Minnesota feeds Adrian Peterson. He is a top three running back, make him earn his money, and make him the work horse. It's not that difficult. On top of that Rice's backup Bernard Pierce is a pretty good ball carrier himself. With a line made up of Yanda, Oher, etc... run the damn ball.

He's at about 220 attempts this year. Thats still a good amount of carries. And there's more games to be played. He could've ended up close to 300 again if Cameron stayed. Rice also is a receiving threat and Cameron has always used him in the passing game.

Him not using Ray Rice enough is a myth.

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Cam Cameron is a trap. His offenses are dull and uninspired, often times forcing talent to fit the scheme, rather than building the scheme around the available talent. Just look at the players he has on offense in Baltimore and all you can do is wonder how the hell they've never managed to be better than just mid-pack.

Joe Flacco's development has been very meager and it's not as if the talent isn't there. He has capable wide receivers and a good offensive line, but the playcalling limits his ability. Flacco is perfectly suited to the Coryell offense, big arm and capable of making accurate throws downfield, but Cameron is so conservative that he rarely pushes the ball downfield. You tell me how they're not blowing people out with play action with Ray Rice in the backfield, if not for the playcalls and scheme not being designed around such a terrific back.

So what if he did well in San Diego. He had elite NFL talent on offense and was still new enough on the job that he hadn't quite developed his risk-averse tendencies yet. It's one thing to be conservative in playcalling when the situation deems it, but Cameron takes that to an extreme. He doesn't see 2nd and 3 as an opportunity to get 20-30yds downfield, he sees it as a first down. Aggressiveness in favorable yardage situations is the way to win football games in the NFL now, you can't just dink and dunk your way to victory. Especially when you have a guy with an arm like Flacco, he's not that type of QB and the offensive system doesn't do well when being overly conservative.

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