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The Cam-Cam Show: Cam Cameron for OC


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#31 Kevin Greene

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 01:37 AM

Ray Rice is on pace for his 4th straight 1200-1300 yard rushing season. Ravens 9th in points scored this season.
Ravens are 9-4 and in control of thier division. Ravens have made the Palyoffs 4 straight years.
Cameron developed the "Small school" Flacco into a top NFL QB with 5 straight 3000 Yard passing seasons.

Tough crowd in Baltimore and here on the Huddle.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:37 AM

Hate to break the news to you all but Ray Rice was in the same backfield as Willis McGahee from 2007 thru 2011, so this is the first year the Ravens have used basically one back.

And the Vikings/Adrian Peterson and the Texans/Arian Foster- who else runs the ball for those teams?

Career stats:
Peterson: 19.4 carries per game @ 4.9 YPC
Foster: 19.9 carries per game @ 4.4 YPC
Rice: 15.9 carries per game @ 4.5 YPC
McGahee: 11.2 carries per game @ 4.1 YPC from 2007-2011 alongside Ray Rice

So, at 4 fewer carries per game, you think they don't use him enough? Really? Just 4 more carries out of a football game that most teams play to about 50-60 offensive plays per game?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:22 AM

We have fans wanting to bring in Cam Cameron and Norv Turner.

No wonder people make fun of us so much.

#34 KillerKat

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:33 AM

You don't need to be balanced, you have Ray fricken Rice, you feed him the ball just like Houston feeds Arian Foster and Minnesota feeds Adrian Peterson. He is a top three running back, make him earn his money, and make him the work horse. It's not that difficult. On top of that Rice's backup Bernard Pierce is a pretty good ball carrier himself. With a line made up of Yanda, Oher, etc... run the damn ball.


He's at about 220 attempts this year. Thats still a good amount of carries. And there's more games to be played. He could've ended up close to 300 again if Cameron stayed. Rice also is a receiving threat and Cameron has always used him in the passing game.

Him not using Ray Rice enough is a myth.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:54 AM

Cam Cameron is a trap. His offenses are dull and uninspired, often times forcing talent to fit the scheme, rather than building the scheme around the available talent. Just look at the players he has on offense in Baltimore and all you can do is wonder how the hell they've never managed to be better than just mid-pack.

Joe Flacco's development has been very meager and it's not as if the talent isn't there. He has capable wide receivers and a good offensive line, but the playcalling limits his ability. Flacco is perfectly suited to the Coryell offense, big arm and capable of making accurate throws downfield, but Cameron is so conservative that he rarely pushes the ball downfield. You tell me how they're not blowing people out with play action with Ray Rice in the backfield, if not for the playcalls and scheme not being designed around such a terrific back.

So what if he did well in San Diego. He had elite NFL talent on offense and was still new enough on the job that he hadn't quite developed his risk-averse tendencies yet. It's one thing to be conservative in playcalling when the situation deems it, but Cameron takes that to an extreme. He doesn't see 2nd and 3 as an opportunity to get 20-30yds downfield, he sees it as a first down. Aggressiveness in favorable yardage situations is the way to win football games in the NFL now, you can't just dink and dunk your way to victory. Especially when you have a guy with an arm like Flacco, he's not that type of QB and the offensive system doesn't do well when being overly conservative.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 08:33 AM

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 12:28 PM

"...His offenses are dull and uninspired..."
As is the owner, personality and culture of the Panthers

"...often times forcing talent to fit the scheme, rather than building the scheme around the available talent..."
John Fox and Dan Henning got away with this during their entire tenure in Charlotte

"It's one thing to be conservative in playcalling when the situation deems it, but Cameron takes that to an extreme. He doesn't see 2nd and 3 as an opportunity to get 20-30yds downfield, he sees it as a first down."
Again, it seemed to be perfectly acceptable to JR and the Panthers while Joh Fox was the head coach. Never forget that a punt is a good play.

"...you can't just dink and dunk your way to victory..."
Like the Chicago Bears did running the same play to Brandon Marshall all the way down the field? Or the Dallas Cowboys in the loss the week before the Chicago game?

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:33 PM

LOL at the Ravens for blowing out Cam Cameron.
Ray Rice's line at Half Time:
8 touches for 22 yards.
Ravens losing 17-0.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:38 PM

Shut up

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:04 PM

This is the first Ravens game ever where the team quit on Harbaugh.

#41 Boltergeist

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:36 PM

I mentioned this in the Cameron fired thread. Chud worked under CC in San Diego, and I think that's where he got the whole trying to force something (Chud: read option, CC: overemphasis on the pass) to the detriment of the teams strengths.


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