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#31 Panthro

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:17 PM

Fully two-thirds of the national debt is owed to the U.S. government, American investors and future retirees, through the Social Security Trust Fund and pension plans for civil service workers and military personnel.


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#32 thefuzz

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:18 PM

What percentage of our debt is to the Chinese?

I'll be waiting here.



President Obama, during his 2008 campaign, criticized President Bush for taking “out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents … so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back.”

Move along...nothing to see here.....

#33 stirs

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:20 PM

Looks like a ton of governement waste in this thread, I am for cutting it all, no matter who is at the wheel.

Hard to say, "some should pay their fair share" when looking at all this crap. Cut it all out, THEN, go after peoples money

#34 thefuzz

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:22 PM

I asked a simple question requiring a numerical response.



It was a question that you could have easily looked up yourself.

I was using a line out of your saviors playbook.

Again, below.

President Obama, during his 2008 campaign, criticized President Bush for taking “out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents … so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back.”

#35 Delhommey

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:22 PM

About 8%, no need to wait, or beat around the subject of my post though.

The post was that both sides are spending US into a horrible mess.


How is 8% a horrible mess?

#36 g5jamz

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:25 PM

Government's shouldn't be immune to recessions. I think Obama's expansion of government has hired 100+ new federal employees a day along with better compensation during his entire tenure is assinine.

http://usatoday30.us...dpay10_ST_N.htm

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In the 1,420 days since he took the oath of office, the federal government has daily hired on average 101 new employees. Every day. Seven days a week. All 202 weeks. That makes 143,000 more federal workers than when Obama talked forever on that cold day in January of 2009.



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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:27 PM

How is 8% a horrible mess?



You are not this stupid.

The debt is the mess, not just owing a portion of it to China.

Again, I was using the Presidents words to describe the stupidity.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:33 PM

You are not this stupid.

The debt is the mess, not just owing a portion of it to China.

Again, I was using the Presidents words to describe the stupidity.


Fire BURN

Debt BAD

#39 Delhommey

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:34 PM

http://www.npr.org/t...toryId=99927343

The basics for everyone else curious to learn.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:43 PM

I think that debt averaging 100+% of GDP is awesome.

No reason to worry about it though...

#41 cookinwithgas

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 09:00 PM

I am probably the only person here that has actually, in person, seen the First Dog and his handler in person.

He's a Secret Service agent, probably a junior one, which makes him a low guy on the totem pole of the most professional, highly trained and hard to get a job with details in the world.

#42 googoodan

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 01:20 AM

Well the defenders jumped on this one pretty quickly.

#43 GOOGLE RON PAUL

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 04:24 AM

Government's shouldn't be immune to recessions. I think Obama's expansion of government has hired 100+ new federal employees a day along with better compensation during his entire tenure is assinine.

http://usatoday30.us...dpay10_ST_N.htm

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pubic sector has lost jobs. the federal government couldn't subsidize the states as much as they could before (because surprise neoconfederates, the states can't get their poo together), and the public sector was hit particularly hard by the recession as a result.

#44 mav1234

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:32 AM

We kept overspending.


Yay oversimplifications...

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 12:26 PM

Kick the can....kick the can...


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