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Not saying cam is selfish, but knowing his abilities, and his past coaches must have used him in a lot of ball carry situations. Could this be a reflect of our run game and [size=5][u][b]PARTIALLY[/b][/u][/size] not the coaches play calling, and OLINE? Muscle memory is tough to break especially when raw, and in the second year of a qb. There have been moments of hesitation of cam holding the ball to long in the RB's belly. Now it seems Cam has grown more custom to letting the RB's run. Thus, maturing in a PRO offense?

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[quote name='ItsPantone278' timestamp='1355322066' post='2043126']
wat?
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Basically, Cam runs the ball TO DAMN MUCH. Hes used to running our offense the RB's never developed because of Cam carries and not the play calling.

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[quote name='0115' timestamp='1355321906' post='2043124']
Not saying cam is selfish, but knowing his abilities, and his past coaches must have used him in a lot of ball carry situations. Could this be a reflect of our run game and [size=5][u][b]PARTIALLY[/b][/u][/size] not the coaches play calling, and OLINE? Muscle memory is tough to break especially when raw, and in the second year of a qb. There have been moments of hesitation of cam holding the ball to long in the RB's belly. Now it seems Cam has grown more custom to letting the RB's run. Thus, maturing in a PRO offense?
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It's called a read option.

That said, don't make another thread.

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[quote name='Floppin' timestamp='1355322149' post='2043130']

It's called a read option.

That said, don't make another thread.
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excuse me. i dont know much about football. what is so bad about posting a damn question?

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Cam was taking too long to make some of his reads. No that he wanted to run it himself, but he wasn't making quick decisions. Now he is.

It helps when you don't run it as often as well.

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[quote name='fieryprophet' timestamp='1355322266' post='2043132']
Cam was taking too long to make some of his reads. No that he wanted to run it himself, but he wasn't making quick decisions. Now he is.

It helps when you don't run it as often as well.
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When Cam is looking at the 'read' this the 'zone read' i keep hearing about?

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[quote name='0115' timestamp='1355322213' post='2043131']

excuse me. i dont know much about football. what is so bad about posting a damn question?
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Well, there has been about 10 billion threads about the option so I figured you would have picked up on what one is by now.

You're asking whether it's Cam's fault for keeping the ball and running when he pulls it back from the RB instead of play calling and the answer is no. It's a called play called an "option", and more specifically a "read option". On the more basic read option Cam has the option of handing off to the RB or keeping it himself and the decision is a quick one based on how the defense has reacted.

I could go into a more in depth explanation, including our triple read option plays, but this should give you a better idea.

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[quote name='0115' timestamp='1355322367' post='2043133']


When Cam is looking at the 'read' this the 'zone read' i keep hearing about?
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exactly, the term "read option" refers to the idea that the decision is based on an actual "read" of the defense by the QB and he picks his "option" of what to do with the ball based on said read.

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[quote name='0115' timestamp='1355322213' post='2043131']

excuse me. i dont know much about football. what is so bad about posting a damn question?
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They dont like new people on here...
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[quote name='Floppin' timestamp='1355322375' post='2043135']
You're asking whether it's Cam's fault for keeping the ball and running when he pulls it back from the RB instead of play calling and the answer is no. I[b]t's a called play called an "option", and more specifically a "read option". On the more basic read option Cam has the option of handing off to the RB or keeping it himself and the decision is a quick one based on how the defense has reacted[/b].

I could go into a more in depth explanation, including our triple read option plays, but this should give you a better idea.
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This is what I meant. Because this is the option this has stunt Cams growth. Did biggest play asset basically stunt his growth in the running game?

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[quote name='dave-o' timestamp='1355322472' post='2043137']


They dont like new people on here...
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=[ cry about it please.

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[quote name='dave-o' timestamp='1355322472' post='2043137']


They dont like new people on here...
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We love new people, unfortunately you have to start off strong. Making an OP with no football knowledge that's compounded with an absolutely atrocious grasp of the English language is rather off putting for a lot of people around here.
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[quote name='Floppin' timestamp='1355322592' post='2043141']
We love new people, unfortunately you have to start off strong. Making an OP with no football knowledge that's compounded with an absolutely atrocious grasp of the English language is rather off putting for a lot of people around here.
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again with the personal attack. what is so wrong coming to a football forum and asking a simple question and asking some one with knowledge about football? is this not a carolina panthers forum? and please spare the attack on the grammaaaarr.

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[quote name='0115' timestamp='1355322551' post='2043139']
This is what I meant. Because this is the option this has stunt Cams growth. Did biggest play asset basically stunt his growth in the running game?
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Well it's been almost universally agreed that the OVERUSE of the option has been a hindrance, not only to Cam, but to the offense in general.

It is effective however when used sparingly.

As to it stunting Cam's personal growth in the running game......I'm not really following you on that.

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[quote name='0115' timestamp='1355322726' post='2043142']


again with the personally attack. what is so wrong coming to a football forum and asking a simple question and asking some one with knowledge about football? is this not a carolina panthers forum? and please spare the attack on the grammaaaarr.
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I didn't attack you, I was speaking a fact. Nothing is wrong with it, just expect to be picked on. It's the nature of the beast. If you don't get offended and pitch a bitch, you will be fine around here.

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Check this out http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Is-the-Read-Option-here-to-stay-in-the-NFL-7299.html

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[quote name='Floppin' timestamp='1355322803' post='2043145']
I didn't attack you, I was speaking a fact. Nothing is wrong with it, just expect to be picked on. It's the nature of the beast. If you don't get offended and pitch a bitch, you will be fine around here.
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Sorry my misunderstanding.

[quote name='Car123' timestamp='1355322830' post='2043146']
Check this out [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Is-the-Read-Option-here-to-stay-in-the-NFL-7299.html"]http://www.nationalf...e-NFL-7299.html[/url]
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thanks for the link

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[quote name='0115' timestamp='1355322726' post='2043142']
again with the personal attack. what is so wrong coming to a football forum and asking a simple question and asking some one with knowledge about football? is this not a carolina panthers forum? and please spare the attack on the grammaaaarr.
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As to the grammar, you need to get it together because you are communicating with a written language. You aren't speaking to someone and unfortunately we have to understand what you're typing. Poor grammar is not only painful to read, it also makes it harder to get your point across.

You are using a medium of communication that requires proper written language, please keep that in mind.

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Of course if English is your second language, as I suspect it might be, just say so and most people will let your grammar slide.

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[quote name='Floppin' timestamp='1355322903' post='2043148']
As to the grammar, you need to get it together because you are communicating with a written language. You aren't speaking to someone and unfortunately we have to understand what you're typing. Poor grammar is not only painful to read, it also makes it harder to get your point across.

You are using a medium of communication that requires proper written language, please keep that in mind.
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That's true. I guess no one would take a poor written thread seriously. D: English is NOT my second language. Korean.

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[quote name='0115' timestamp='1355322985' post='2043151']
That's true. I guess no one would take a poor written thread seriously. D: English is NOT my second language. Korean.
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So you're Korean but English isn't your second language? You learned to speak English first being Korean?

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[quote name='Floppin' timestamp='1355323143' post='2043152']

So you're Korean but English isn't your second language? You learned to speak English first being Korean?
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Korean>Japanese>English
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Ahh, so it's your third language then. Gotcha.

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Part of it too might be that this subject has been discussed ad naseum... and rightly so, but if you don't know, then there's no harm in asking.

It's pretty much what Flopping said... I'd say the vast majority of people on here agree that having the read option as our base offense this season was one cause, if not the main cause of our offensive problems.

It doesn't effectively use our running backs, it hinders Cam's growth as an NFL QB and it just doesn't work very well in the NFL if you do it ALL THE TIME because NFL defenses are smart and NFL defensive players are fast and strong.

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