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#76 Inimicus

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:19 PM

i hate goodell more and more each year.



fug...the pie was a mis-click.


I was trying to hit quote to say:
If you just need someone to blame get a stuffed animal and name it Meany McMeanerson. That way you might be able to see that Goodell is not the Devil and is in fact improving the product.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

me.



I'm ok with expanding to 14 or even 16. But 20? Can you help me out and tell me why you think 20 would be good? I was agreeing with you up until you said 20.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

Interesting he releases this after the huge PR hit his image has taken the past couple of days.

It looks like the Saints bounty thing has blown up in his face. He's loss the respect of his peers and subordinates so maybing make an appeasement to the fans will help him recover a bit of face.

I like Goodell's firm stance on player discipline, but he hasn't been a very adequate commish.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

the downside is more injury which leads to more rule changes which leads to an expanded schedule.


f*ck that.



Bullshit.


You know it too which makes your post trolling on top of the fact that its bullshit.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:36 PM

fug...the pie was a mis-click.


I was trying to hit quote to say:
If you just need someone to blame get a stuffed animal and name it Meany McMeanerson. That way you will be able to see that Goodell is not the Devil and is in fact improving the product.


I don't think he's the devil, but I haven't seen an improved product...I've seen lip service to players about safety issues... fining the shiat out of people for legal hits while the league ecschews any responsibility. I've seen the game continue to become slower and more commercialized, constantly repackaged for people who mistake a high score for a good game... I mean, it certainly could be worse... but the only thing the league has done that has made me happy in a while has been putting the superbowl in new york.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:48 PM

I'm ok with expanding to 14 or even 16. But 20? Can you help me out and tell me why you think 20 would be good? I was agreeing with you up until you said 20.

the shiek threw that number out and i said "why not?"

now of course that's not something that i particularly want, but i wouldn't have a problem with a "battle royale" approach like that. the teams that can survive all the way through would do it. after all, it's a competition to see which team is the best in the league, right? how would that change with 12, 14, or 20 teams?

i just don't see the problem with it nor do i see it doing anything to dilute competition, in fact it adds more competition to the playoffs and makes it harder to become champions.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

the shiek threw that number out and i said "why not?"

now of course that's not something that i particularly want, but i wouldn't have a problem with a "battle royale" approach like that. the teams that can survive all the way through would do it. after all, it's a competition to see which team is the best in the league, right? how would that change with 12, 14, or 20 teams?

i just don't see the problem with it nor do i see it doing anything to dilute competition, in fact it adds more competition to the playoffs and makes it harder to become champions.


In my opinion, if it was to go to 20, to me the regular season games doesn't mean anything if 20 out 32 is going to the playoffs. I'm OK with 8 teams per conference but pushing it to 10 teams per conference is pushing it a little bit but I agree with everything you have said thus far. I just differ from you on this point.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:17 PM

I don't think he's the devil, but I haven't seen an improved product...I've seen lip service to players about safety issues... fining the shiat out of people for legal hits while the league ecschews any responsibility. I've seen the game continue to become slower and more commercialized, constantly repackaged for people who mistake a high score for a good game... I mean, it certainly could be worse... but the only thing the league has done that has made me happy in a while has been putting the superbowl in new york.



What metric are you using to determine that the product hasn't improved?

Teams are more valuable than ever.
TV contracts are some of the biggest ever penned.
The league is in more households every week than ever before.
Players are better protected than ever before.
Players are richer than ever before.


But you dont get to see someone carted off the field every week with their career and future in doubt.


go watch NASCAR and WWE...

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:27 PM

What metric are you using to determine that the product hasn't improved?

Teams are more valuable than ever.
TV contracts are some of the biggest ever penned.
The league is in more households every week than ever before.
Players are better protected than ever before.
Players are richer than ever before.


But you dont get to see someone carted off the field every week with their career and future in doubt.


go watch NASCAR and WWE...


man, you're pissy today...that's not what i'm saying at all. I have no problem with player safety... I think it's really important that the game evolve... but not reactionarily... every move they've made thus far has been to protect their brand, not the players. With one hand they fine players for things that aren't against the rules, plays that don't even draw flags on the field...with the other they cover up and deny allegations and excise any responsibility for concussions and the damage they cause... all the while pushing to expand regular season play, denying benefits for those who HAVE suffered and fighting against protection for defensive players. They aren't trying to make the game safer... they're trying to protect their asses.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:35 PM

man, you're pissy today...that's not what i'm saying at all. I have no problem with player safety... I think it's really important that the game evolve... but not reactionarily... every move they've made thus far has been to protect their brand, not the players. With one hand they fine players for things that aren't against the rules, plays that don't even draw flags on the field...with the other they cover up and deny allegations and excise any responsibility for concussions and the damage they cause... all the while pushing to expand regular season play, denying benefits for those who HAVE suffered and fighting against protection for defensive players. They aren't trying to make the game safer... they're trying to protect their asses.



LOL

Yeah prob so.


There is just this crazy rush here over the last few months to paint Goodell out to be the harbinger of doom for the NFL and I for one just dont see it.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 03:39 PM

LOL

Yeah prob so.


There is just this crazy rush here over the last few months to paint Goodell out to be the harbinger of doom for the NFL and I for one just dont see it.


i don't believe that... but i think he's rushing to make the game EVEN more commercially viable... and I think that's having an affect on the game. I'm just afraid he's short sighted.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 04:02 PM

In my opinion, if it was to go to 20, to me the regular season games doesn't mean anything if 20 out 32 is going to the playoffs. I'm OK with 8 teams per conference but pushing it to 10 teams per conference is pushing it a little bit but I agree with everything you have said thus far. I just differ from you on this point.

i don't see why it matters who gets in as long as they can make it through. pushing it to 10 per conference wouldn't be horrible. just looking at last year there were 10 teams in each conference without a losing record. i know that's not the norm (maybe it is, i don't know) but still the challenge is to be just good enough to get into the playoffs...just like before and just because it's easier to get in doesn't mean it's easier to get through. teams that win the most would still have homefield advantage and every team in the playoffs would still have to be perfect and beat every team it faces.

again, not an advocate of it, i just don't see it as being a bad thing.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 04:02 PM

fug.

no.

this guy is trying to destroy football.

(Unless this means an expansion of two-ish teams for each conference. Then yes.)

I don't think going to 14 teams would hurt.

Only give one bye and add one more team in the each Conf.

I could get behind this change.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 04:05 PM

i don't believe that... but i think he's rushing to make the game EVEN more commercially viable... and I think that's having an affect on the game. I'm just afraid he's short sighted.

he's expanding the market and bringing in more revenue. not sure he's the one being short sighted.

he's a good business man. above everything else, that is the most important role as league commish. to draw more viewers, draw more advertisers, and make more money. he has to take what was handed to him and help the league grow and be more viable.

but since he's the top dog in the league he's easy to hate. it comes with the job.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 04:08 PM

i'm for expanding the playoffs only if it eliminates bye weeks


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