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#106 ElkinPanthersFan

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:14 AM

Its hard for people to grasp that he is indeed just a face to all the rules being made. It is no different than the President. All I know is he has the final say on players (Well that is debatable now). The president more times than not does not make up things that come up in legislation, just like Goodell and new ideas. He can disagree with them but the competition committee can still just pass them.

#107 Munch4455

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 12:48 PM

Jared Allen pretty much echoes my sentiments from yesterday.

http://espn.go.com/n...playoffs-stupid

Minnesota Vikings defensive end Jared Allen is not a fan of the NFL exploring the idea of playoff expansion.
"It's stupid," Allen told the Minneapolis Star Tribune. "I think it's a dumb idea. The reason our league is so much better than other leagues, I think, is because of that competition. Every game means something. There are 162 games in baseball and you're like, 'Ehhh.' No one really watches until the end, right? Basketball, same way. There's no real significance on every game. And I think you damage the sport if an 8-8 team [has a greater playoff chance]. You know what I mean? Now our games become less significant each week if you know, like, 'Oh, I can still lose half my games and sneak into the playoffs."


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Posted ImageESPN.com's NFL columnists and division bloggers weigh in on the idea of expanded NFL playoffs. Blog
Allen's comments come in the wake of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell saying at the owners meetings Wednesday that the league would spend the next few months looking at the idea of adding more playoff teams.
In the current format, adopted in 2002 after the NFL added the Houston Texans and realigned the league into eight four-team divisions, 12 teams make the playoffs -- eight division champions and two wild cards in each conference.
The NFL has had 12 teams qualify for the postseason since 1990, when it expanded the field from 10, adding a third wild card in each conference to join three division champions. Goodell said the league would explore adding two to four playoff teams, meaning half of the league's 32 teams could make the postseason.
Allen's criticism also comes with the Vikings (7-6) battling for an NFC playoff spot. Even though the Vikings would have a better shot at making the playoffs if there were more teams, Allen still likes the current system.
"With all these changes, it's not necessarily always a good thing," Allen told the paper.. "I know it probably is for owners. They make more money. And TV and all that good stuff. But at some point, the identity of our league and what it stands on and why it's so good is because every game means something."
In 2008, the Patriots missed the playoffs with an 11-5 record. Three years earlier, Allen's Chiefs failed to qualify for the postseason with a 10-6 mark.



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Posted 14 December 2012 - 12:57 PM

Jared Allen pretty much echoes my sentiments from yesterday.

http://espn.go.com/n...playoffs-stupid

how much more does it "damage the sport" when a 7-9 team gets in just because they were the turd that floated to the top of their division.

what makes more sense, allowing another team with a winning record to enter the playoffs and provide more quality competition or maintaining the status quo where it's possible for a 10 win team to sit at home come playoff time while a 7-9 team gets to keep on playing?

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:22 PM

I find it funny that even players are thinking PROFESSIONALS would be cool with losing half of their games just because they expand the playoffs. Doesn't everyone that makes it to that level want to be the best? Isn't that how they got there?

Secondly, I'm a Allen fan, but his reasoning leaves something to be desired here... Comparing football to the MLB and NBA in your defense of not expanding the playoffs? Uhh... Guess what? 16 games isn't much time to jack around regardless of whether it's 12 or 14 teams getting in. There is a huge difference between 16 (or 18 games) versus 82 and 100+. What I'm saying is, every game will still count.

And he's completely neglecting the potential of how much more exciting the playoffs would be when you factor in the potential for upsets. It will also draw in more fans because more teams will be in it.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:36 PM

how much more does it "damage the sport" when a 7-9 team gets in just because they were the turd that floated to the top of their division.

what makes more sense, allowing another team with a winning record to enter the playoffs and provide more quality competition or maintaining the status quo where it's possible for a 10 win team to sit at home come playoff time while a 7-9 team gets to keep on playing?



You speak of the Seahaws like it happens every year with a team below .500 sneaks into the playoffs bc they have a terrible division. Only 3 times since '82 have teams made the playoffs with a sub .500 record. 2 of them were 1982 when the season was shortened to 9 games and 2 4-5 teams made it in. It was an anomaly, nothing more.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:05 PM

You speak of the Seahaws like it happens every year with a team below .500 sneaks into the playoffs bc they have a terrible division. Only 3 times since '82 have teams made the playoffs with a sub .500 record. 2 of them were 1982 when the season was shortened to 9 games and 2 4-5 teams made it in. It was an anomaly, nothing more.

it's still a flawed system that really is no better than the one being suggested, in fact the one suggested could very well be an improvement...but we don't want that, do we? we've got to resist change.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:11 PM

I agree with Goodell here


But are there any players that agree with anything he wants? Lol

Probably besides cutting preseason

#113 rayzor

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:53 PM

I agree with Goodell here


But are there any players that agree with anything he wants? Lol

Probably besides cutting preseason

the ones who get into the playoffs when they wouldn't have the year before will agree with it.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 03:32 PM

rather have 16 team playoffs then 18 game season, if that is the choice we are having to make here. Goodell seems to want more games either way. Of course this probably also means the London and LA expansion team are not far behind either.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 03:39 PM

the funny thing about all this whining and bitching about adding a couple playoff teams...just how many playoff games will it add?

if it's expanding to 14 we're talking about 2 added playoff games. that's it. one in each conference and the only one who gets a bye is the one team at the top.

i'm not sure what all the hub bub is.

#116 ElkinPanthersFan

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 05:08 PM

I think the dogfight for the only Bye at the top of the conference would certainly make the last weeks of the season interesting. Right now, we have teams that have divisions locked up and as long as they coast they will still have their Byes while not playing fully during the regular season. It will fix two problems at once imo. More competition from the top tier teams late in the season for the 1 bye slot and make those games at the end of the season more exciting for fans.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 07:20 PM

how much more does it "damage the sport" when a 7-9 team gets in just because they were the turd that floated to the top of their division.

what makes more sense, allowing another team with a winning record to enter the playoffs and provide more quality competition or maintaining the status quo where it's possible for a 10 win team to sit at home come playoff time while a 7-9 team gets to keep on playing?


Here's the thing. You don't need to expand the playoffs to fix that problem.

Just change the seeding system so that the six teams with the best records get in rather than doing it by division winners and wild cards.

That idea's been floated before too.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:25 PM

Here's the thing. You don't need to expand the playoffs to fix that problem.

Just change the seeding system so that the six teams with the best records get in rather than doing it by division winners and wild cards.

That idea's been floated before too.


A Division winner deserves to make the Playoffs. That is still the number one goal. Win your Division.

14 team playoff seems like a prefect match for a 17 game schedule. With 3 preseason games.

Goodall is not just a figurehead. But that is his main job.

More playoff teams mean more playoff fans. That is good for football.

Arguing about hypotheticals is a battle that cannot be won. But please, don't let it stop y'all.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 11:26 PM

the funny thing about all this whining and bitching about adding a couple playoff teams...just how many playoff games will it add?

if it's expanding to 14 we're talking about 2 added playoff games. that's it. one in each conference and the only one who gets a bye is the one team at the top.

i'm not sure what all the hub bub is.


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 06:36 AM

NBA here we come...the NFL playoff format is perfect..Goodell sucks...again..

Exactly. Look at MLB playoffs. Just ridiculous.


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