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i saw that earlier as well. here is exactly what is going to happen then.

semi automatic weapons and or rifles are going to be banned. mark it down.

Whoa boy....I can't imagine how that is going to go down.

The guys they send to pick up the weapons had better have some serious firepower with them.

My family owns no less than 10 semi autos, I can't see us/them giving up any of them. And we are normal people.

Can't imagine what will happen in the sticks.

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I think a combination of the suggestions from the other thread and possibly implementing a law making mandatory use of a gun safe by owners of guns would make a huge difference. Can we enforce gun safe usage? Not pre-crime, but if it is found that the owner didn't have a gun safe following a crime in which their guns were used, then they should be charged as well.

In this case, that wouldn't be possible because she is dead, but if she had a gun safe and she was the only one who had the ability to unlock it, then he wouldn't have ever gotten the guns and she wouldn't have been killed.

I think that should be looked into on the gun-side of the issues at hand.

I still think mental illness was the main problem here.

Bad idea on the safe thing. In no way do I need to have to access a safe to protect myself, family, and property from an intruder.

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Hey nice person who just broke into my house, can I get a sec to retrieve my weapon from that safe over there before you start doing whatever it is to my family that you came to do? While you're at it, gimmie a hand with this trigger lock, wouldya?

What's next? Making them wait while I load my musket?

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I think a combination of the suggestions from the other thread and possibly implementing a law making mandatory use of a gun safe by owners of guns would make a huge difference. Can we enforce gun safe usage? Not pre-crime, but if it is found that the owner didn't have a gun safe following a crime in which their guns were used, then they should be charged as well.

In this case, that wouldn't be possible because she is dead, but if she had a gun safe and she was the only one who had the ability to unlock it, then he wouldn't have ever gotten the guns and she wouldn't have been killed.

I think that should be looked into on the gun-side of the issues at hand.

I still think mental illness was the main problem here.

So, if I bust in your house and hold your family at gunpoint, you gonna deny me the guns while I shoot your family one by one?

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oh im not saying its right. im saying watch the ban happen. they may just say going forward and not sweat pre sales of semi's.

yesterday was a game changer for what the future holds.

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yesterday was a game changer for what the future holds.

Yep. If this doesn't change things, nothing will.

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Bad idea on the safe thing. In no way do I need to have to access a safe to protect myself, family, and property from an intruder.

I've thought about that, but man, I've also thought about the statistics that have shown how many people are killed by their own guns and how many children are accidentally killed by improperly stored guns. I also think about how most intruders try to break-in homes that are unoccupied at the time of break-in. Unless you are Scrooge McDuck and live in a house that screams "if you get inside I have tons of valuable items!" then odds are, most robbers don't want to risk it.

So, I would rather be safe than sorry. If I'm not mistaken, rarely ever are guns used in self-defense in robberies and home invasions. It's rare.

The gun safe law would keep a lot more of these unnecessary events and tragedies from happening and I'd suspect that deaths from home invasions/robberies would remain about the same. Just my opinion.

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If they attempt a gun grab then it will spill into the streets.

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So, if I bust in your house and hold your family at gunpoint, you gonna deny me the guns while I shoot your family one by one?

That's my point... Odds are, if you didn't notice the people outside of your home before they actually break in, you probably are gonna get popped anyway. Having a quickly accessible gun isn't going to make a difference.

Again, most break-ins happen when people aren't home or when the robbers suspect they aren't home.

I'm am all for the right to bear arms, but there has to be some kind of compromise.

With a gun safe law like I'm proposing, it can't be enforced until post-crime technically. So, if you don't want to use a gun safe, have at it... But, if someone gets ahold of your guns and kills someone with them, you should be held liable.

That's all I'm saying. If you don't want someone to get your guns and have you held liable, store them safely and securely where only you have access to them.

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Think about it.

Now, they can just break in and get guns, jewels, etc. because you don't have a safe. If everyone gets a safe, guess when they will break in at that point? This woman didn't even have a safe and got blown away

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Think about it.

Now, they can just break in and get guns, jewels, etc. because you don't have a safe. If everyone gets a safe, guess when they will break in at that point? This woman didn't even have a safe and got blown away

It's still a gamble for criminals... How do they know you have a safe? LOL.

I'm willing to bet guys like thefuzz would not abide by this law, so criminals would get an unpleasant surprise if they banked on him abiding by it.

As I said, it's a law that could only be enforced post-crime... So, if you don't want to to use a gun safe it's a risk you have to be willing to accept.

We should have guns, but I think a law like this would keep crime rates around the same numbers because criminals can't trust that every gun owner will obey it, at the same time, I think it will reduce the number of unprovoked murders, mass killings, accidental shootings, etc.

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