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I just don't want an Oregon offense here. We obviously see what Cam can do when we limit the read option college bullcrap. When we run the ball and use play action (traditional) Cam is a beast and we put up points. I'm afraid that Chip would bring his scheme here and we would have a Chud type problem again...

what makes you think that kelly is trapped/locked into that read option stuff and that he wouldn't adapt?

he's already said he would and those who have worked with him said that he adapts what he does to the personnel he has.

i've said it before, the problem with chud was that he tried locking newton and the offense into some new creative mold where he should have just used an adaptable offense like he did last year...which is what kelly does.

But how would Kelly, who runs anything but a typical pro-style system, make his offense work in the NFL?

Kelly says he’d make it work just fine.

In an interview with KJR in Seattle, Kelly said that good coaches adapt their systems to the type of players they have, and that he could adapt his own spread offense to work in the NFL.

No one can be married to one thing, because it’s all personnel-driven,” Kelly said, via SportsRadioInterviews.com. “It’s like the Denver Broncos. What John Fox did in Denver with The Golden Calf of Bristol was outstanding because he looked at what he had for a player and said, ‘Hey, we’re going to run this.’ Now, all of a sudden, they have Peyton Manning and they’re not going to run the same plays. . . . It’s a personnel-driven game and I think the coaches that are the best at it can adapt their systems to the NFL.”

The Buccaneers’ personnel would seem to suit Kelly’s offense reasonably well, as Josh Freeman is a mobile quarterback who can make plays with his feet as well as his arm, and LeGarratte Blount played in Kelly’s offense at Oregon. So from an Xs and Os perspective, Kelly might not have needed to make radical changes. That may be one reason that coaching the Bucs is something Kelly says he very seriously considered.

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From a game strategy perspective, Kelly might have been the most unconventional coaching choice in NFL history: Kelly does things his own way on game day, ranging from the way he goes for two far more often than other coaches to the way he calls trick plays and deep passes in situations when other coaches play it safe. At the college level, Kelly runs a football team unlike anything the NFL has ever seen.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/25/chip-kelly-i-almost-coached-bucs-can-adapt-my-offense-to-the-nfl/

he will have his own slant on things that will be different than most coaches in the league, but i can promise you that it won't be the exact same thing he does in oregon. the no huddle hurry up offense will probably be there as will his aggressive game management and it will be a spread of some kind, but it won't be the same thing.

he diagnoses what defenses does and then changes his play calling to take advantage of weaknesses they present and he allows the QB to make those calls on the line regularly.

chud was just to inflexible in what he was doing and was unwilling to deviate from his original plan. it wasn't the scheme that was the problem. it was the play-calling and game management.

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Didnt watch the video. Would like the hire.

Brilliant offensive mind? Check.

High remarks from NFL scouts? Check

Youthful, but with HCing experience? Check

Willing to snap at stupid college students on camera for being little perverts? Check.

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Stev e Spurrier 2.0

This is an unbelievably stupid comment.

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Not buying it.

What GM worth a crap would want to come here without being able to hire his own guy?

(assuming there even is a head coach opening, which there may not be)

But... but... it is Nawookie the best in the biz. ;)

i never understood why you went to such lengths to defend that guy before the draft two years ago. But what done is done,

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I love the quick tempo offense he uses. Teams kill us with tempo repeatedly and I'd love to be able to do the same at some point.

Kelly and Reid are two of my hopefuls, which means it's down to Zimmer and Mike McCoy unfortunately.

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what makes you think that kelly is trapped/locked into that read option stuff and that he wouldn't adapt?

he's already said he would and those who have worked with him said that he adapts what he does to the personnel he has.

i've said it before, the problem with chud was that he tried locking newton and the offense into some new creative mold where he should have just used an adaptable offense like he did last year...which is what kelly does.

he will have his own slant on things that will be different than most coaches in the league, but i can promise you that it won't be the exact same thing he does in oregon. the no huddle hurry up offense will probably be there as will his aggressive game management and it will be a spread of some kind, but it won't be the same thing.

he diagnoses what defenses does and then changes his play calling to take advantage of weaknesses they present and he allows the QB to make those calls on the line regularly.

chud was just to inflexible in what he was doing and was unwilling to deviate from his original plan. it wasn't the scheme that was the problem. it was the play-calling and game management.

Wait.. he complimented John Fox on adjusting to player personnel?!?!? Next please. I kid I kid :)

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Wait.. he complimented John Fox on adjusting to player personnel?!?!? Next please. I kid I kid :)

yeah, that part bugged me and i think he gives fox and mccoy more credit than they deserve, but the principle is still sound. adapt what you do to who you have and what you can make work.

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With someone as tempo dependent as Cam is I could really see him thriving in this type of offense. Not to mention the game of professional football is changing to an offensive game. It will not be rare to have 5000 yd passers anymore. Defenses are handicapped and we'd be smart to take a look at a coach that's trying to take advantage.

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I love the quick tempo offense he uses. Teams kill us with tempo repeatedly and I'd love to be able to do the same at some point.

Kelly and Reid are two of my hopefuls, which means it's down to Zimmer and Mike McCoy unfortunately.

gag i hope not.

mr. scot is going to absolutely LOVE that you lumped zimmer with mccoy, though. lol

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