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#136 rayzor

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 08:29 PM

But who thinks the odds of a guy completely changes what he does AND making a jump to the NFL.....has high odds of immediate success?

no one is saying that he has to completely change what he does. just refine it a bit.

it won't look exactly the same, but the fundamentals will all be the same...which really isn't all that different from what most teams do, esp. more traditional run first teams. run first to set up the pass. pass to open up the run game more. make the defense pick their poison.

it's just how he pulls that off that's different.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 08:52 PM

Jonathan Stewart seemed to do OK in that style of offense. So much so, he was a first round draft pick


Stewart played for Kelly?

Interesting.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:01 PM

Stewart played for Kelly?

Interesting.


Kelly became the OC at Oregon during Stew's senior year

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:13 PM

Stewart played for Kelly?

Interesting.

283 carries, 1722 yards rushing, 11 TDs
22 receptions, 145 yards, 2 TDs


in addition to 23 kick returns for 614 yards

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:16 PM

Kelly became the OC at Oregon during Stew's junior year

ftfy.
stewart went into the draft after his junior year.

thought someone might try to nit pick.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:16 PM

Here's one thing I'm struggling with about Kelly's system...he is known for running very fast, intense practices. But instead of practicing in Oregon or in an indoor facility, he would be doing it outdoors in Spartanburg and Charlotte. And the players won't be 18 to 22, they'll be 24 to 34 year old men. NFL players are stronger and more bulked up than college kids. Are they going to be able to run that system? And if not, what does Kelly then bring to the table that other coaches don't.

I'm not anti-Kelly, but color me less than completely sold that he'll translate to the pros.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:43 PM

Chip Kelly is at the top of my want list, Rayzor has provided some good reads and info on him that sold me.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:02 PM

Here's one thing I'm struggling with about Kelly's system...he is known for running very fast, intense practices. But instead of practicing in Oregon or in an indoor facility, he is doing it outdoors in Spartanburg and Charlotte. And the players won't be 18 to 22, they'll be 24 to 34 year old men. NFL players are stronger and more bulked up than college kids. Are they going to be able to run that system? And if not, what does Kelly then bring to the table that other coaches don't.

I'm not anti-Kelly, but color me less than completely sold that he'll translate to the pros.

Two campers come upon an angry bear. The first says, "I'm glad I wore my running shoes." The second says, "you can't outrun the bear." The first says, "I don't have to outrun the bear, I just have to outrun you."

point is...he doesn't have to have the guys he coaches at the pros run as fast as they do in college or for as long. he just has to get their endurance up to outlast the guys they face every week.

his won't be the first hurry up/no huddle offense in the league. other teams have done it for years. the broncos (in denver with thin air) and the pats are doing it.

he'll adjust to what they can do, they'll adjust to what he wants to do.

anyway....i think that the players will be more able to work at that fast pace than what you realize. some will be weeded out, bit these are professionals. they'll be able to get with the program. if they can't do we really need them around?

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:06 AM

because of the NFL's practice rules, Kelly would probably have to tone it down quite a bit

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 12:19 AM

i don't think he will. not only is he known for the pace of his practices, he's also known for having shorter practices.

Other programs pride themselves on tempo, but Gruden said he had never seen an operation that was both this fast and this refined. Oregon’s practices last two hours, an hour less than a typical college practice, and there is so little time between plays that coaches must do their teaching with only a few words or wait until the film room. Kelly said that practice had become so sophisticated and fluid that getting off 30 snaps in a 10-minute period had become common.
http://www.nytimes.c...wanted=all&_r=0


i think practices at training camp might be the same amount of time and they might even be shorter than the typical one, but it should be a lot more entertaining with a whole lot less standing around and talking. they'll definitely get a whole lot more done.

i'm not sure, but i think that college teams are under even more strict rules for practice then pros. at the very least there's not a whole lot of difference.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 06:09 AM


"No one is married to an offense or a defense. If we had a group of guys that could line up in the Power-I and run the Power-I then we would do it."

This guy will come in and alter his offense to the (many) strengths that we have as an offensive unit. I'd be real excited if we brought Chip Kelly in.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:59 AM

I hate that I like RR. And I hate the uncertainty at coach. But Chip Kelly would be an exciting change of pace.

Maybe get Chad Morris for OC (I kid I kid... would prefer Clemson stay intact)

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:10 AM

I think even besides Chips offensive guru status I love his ability to lead the team and motivate his guys. We need that. RR is not the leader our players need. I hope we can get him.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 04:06 PM

It's Rivera or Kelly IMO. I haven't seen anyone else worth changing everything around.


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