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#16 rayzor

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:26 PM

But, can that system/offensive style be successful in the NFL? That is the real question.

yes. it is being used and it is successful.

the pats went to him about how to run a no huddle hurry up offense and they are now using it very successfully.

teams are using spread offenses quite well and he's not locked into the read option. he uses it because it works with the personnel he has, the limited time he has with his players, and against the opponents they play against.

many teams are using concepts of his already...they are trying to imitate or at least incorporate what he does on offense and in regards to game management. he's the real deal, tho.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:27 PM

As I've said before, Chip Kelly would be an absolutely scary hire to me with no in between. It's either a home-run or a complete dumpster fire.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:29 PM

As I've said before, Chip Kelly would be an absolutely scary hire to me with no in between. It's either a home-run or a complete dumpster fire.


I agree

I just don't know. My gut is 100% right about 50% of the time and I've got a feeling if he goes anywhere in the NFL its to San Diego or Philly.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:35 PM

How could they be "hearing" anything when we don't even have a GM?

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:38 PM

I would be ok with this hire. Gotta get a GM in here first, though. He needs to be able to bring in his guy

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:26 PM

yes. it is being used and it is successful.

the pats went to him about how to run a no huddle hurry up offense and they are now using it very successfully.

teams are using spread offenses quite well and he's not locked into the read option. he uses it because it works with the personnel he has, the limited time he has with his players, and against the opponents they play against.

many teams are using concepts of his already...they are trying to imitate or at least incorporate what he does on offense and in regards to game management. he's the real deal, tho.


Valid points. I have also heard that he is well respected among the NFL.



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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:32 PM

what's up with offensive guru's and their visors? (spurrier, peyton, kelly..)

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:36 PM

Considering we don't even have a GM I'm not about to believe these types of rumors.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:46 PM

Valid points. I have also heard that he is well respected among the NFL.

the guy runs a tight, no nonsense program.

and i don't mean he's some strict disciplinarian, either. he knows how to maximize time both in games and in practice.

everything is about getting the most out of every minute whether in a game or in practice.

the thing i've heard about his practices is that they are as up-tempo as his games are.

i thought this was a great explanation of what his practices and his team culture is like from a NY Times piece


Why do Kelly’s schemes allow just about any quarterback to lead the Ducks to the top of college football’s statistical categories?

The answer comes from the blur that is an Oregon practice, a kaleidoscope of colors, whistles and music. The practices are so intense that even team managers have to tape their ankles, and they illustrate the white-knuckle philosophy of a program designed to leave opponents in its wake.

“The tempo is unique,” said the former N.F.L. coach Jon Gruden, who nearly took a job at Oregon to learn Kelly’s offense. “They’re not the only no-huddle, but they’re as fast as any team that plays football.”

Other programs pride themselves on tempo, but Gruden said he had never seen an operation that was both this fast and this refined. Oregon’s practices last two hours, an hour less than a typical college practice, and there is so little time between plays that coaches must do their teaching with only a few words or wait until the film room. Kelly said that practice had become so sophisticated and fluid that getting off 30 snaps in a 10-minute period had become common.

That relentless pace and superior conditioning help explain how Oregon has outscored its opponents, 86-7, in the second half this season without ever running that staple of football conditioning drudgery — wind sprints.

“Practice is a wind sprint,” said Nate Costa, Oregon’s backup quarterback. “There’s no real need to do that additionally.”

The high-speed practices mean that wide receivers must learn to run backward to the huddle to see the next play. Receivers are taught not to chase after missed passes and to sprint to the referee, who is a manager wearing an official’s jersey, to hand him the ball after a completion. Obviously, the Ducks cannot start their next play until the referee spots the ball.

Four managers signal plays at all times in practice, with three using hand signals and another holding up large cue cards that feature everything from the “Caddyshack” gopher to a picture of the ESPN anchor Scott Van Pelt. In some drills, managers posing as defensive linemen wear concoctions of duct tape and cardboard — inspired by samurai flags Kelly saw in a movie — that mimic the size of a tall defensive lineman with his arms outstretched.

“I was dizzy walking off the field,” Gruden said. “It’s a philosophy that is the damndest thing I’ve ever seen. I love it and can’t get enough of it.”

This cacophony has become a must-see stop for other coaches. Kelly said that Boise State Coach Chris Petersen and Kevin Wilson, Oklahoma’s offensive coordinator, came through during spring practice.

“The N.F.L. scouts on the sideline, the first time they come and watch practice, they’re like, ‘What the heck is this?’ ” Costa said. “They’re mesmerized by it. There’s nothing like it.”

An eclectic music shuffle constantly blares to simulate crowd noise. Songs include the symbolic (“Sympathy for the Devil” before the Arizona State game); the hip (tracks from the rapper Drake); and the out of place (“Circle of Life” from “The Lion King”). For good measure, the players hurry around attired in the Ducks’ dizzying yellow and green color scheme.

“Our practices are bedlam,” said the offensive line coach Steve Greatwood, who did request more variety from Kelly’s music playlist. “Not enough country for me,” he said.
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“When he talks to the team, he doesn’t need to do it for an extended period,” Unger said. “He’s to the point. Everyone sits up and listens.”
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Oregon had run elements of a no-huddle before Kelly’s arrival, but the pace of his practices required adjustments from players and coaches.

“In the old days, you could pull aside a guy while they huddled up,” said Mike Bellotti, Oregon’s former coach. “You do that now and you would miss five plays.”
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Because Oregon’s offense will score so frequently, Kelly keeps his defense fresh by using 25 players — 9 defensive linemen, 6 linebackers and 10 defensive backs — every game.

“The only way to get in shape for the no-huddle is you have to be competing against it and running it,” said Ed Dickson, a former tight end for the Ducks.
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“I was so eager to learn it, I almost took the job,” said Gruden, who turned down a shot to become Kelly’s offensive coordinator to become an ESPN analyst. “My wife said, ‘Are you the craziest human being alive, you want to move to Oregon to learn an offense?’

“I said: ‘But Cindy, it’s the Oregon spread. It’s unbelievable.’ She didn’t see it from my point of view.”



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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

Thanks no

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:56 PM

This all just sounds like a bunch of noise. We haven't hired a GM...no way there's any considering of new HC's at this time

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:58 PM

Stop it!

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 03:02 PM

This all just sounds like a bunch of noise. We haven't hired a GM...no way there's any considering of new HC's at this time

hiring chip kelly would be music to my ears, tho.

agreed, there's probably nothing to this except for the team being interested in kelly.

hopefully JR will be at least open to the idea.


don't want to be passing up on another harbaugh type hire.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 03:07 PM

The more I think about it the more I would love to have Chip Kelly in Carolina. This team needs an offensive mind to right the ship.

That said, I just can't seem to get my hopes up. Every time we go in a different direction.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 03:08 PM

hiring chip kelly would be music to my ears, tho.

agreed, there's probably nothing to this except for the team being interested in kelly.

hopefully JR will be at least open to the idea.


don't want to be passing up on another harbaugh type hire.


I just don't want an Oregon offense here. We obviously see what Cam can do when we limit the read option college bullcrap. When we run the ball and use play action (traditional) Cam is a beast and we put up points. I'm afraid that Chip would bring his scheme here and we would have a Chud type problem again...


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