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10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:08 PM

In what way are any of those other gods more fictional than Jesus?

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:11 PM

So it's not like Jesus then. I suppose we can say the American Revolutionary War didn't take place, because I found 20,000 fictional wars in the library just like it.


I think the idea is that Jesus, as a person, isn't fictional, just a lot of the story attributed to him.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:14 PM

In what way are any of those other gods more fictional than Jesus?


Well to begin by answering this question, there's way more historical facts about Jesus, than any of those guys in the list. Yet this is besides my original point. All I want is for those who try to make comparisons between Jesus and other figures (basically saying Jesus is a made up figure, that borrowed from other religions), list the specifics. How are they similar, because if I just read into it all, I would think Jesus was a direct copy of 15 other religious figures.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:16 PM

Well to begin by answering this question, there's way more historical facts about Jesus, than any of those guys in the list. Yet this is besides my original point. All I want is for those who try to make comparisons between Jesus and other figures (basically saying Jesus is a made up figure, that borrowed from other religions), list the specifics. How are they similar, because if I just read into it all, I would think Jesus was a direct copy of 15 other religious figures.

Examples? Preferably by eye witnesses, or at least within 10 or so years of the time he was purported to be alive.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:23 PM

Examples? Preferably by eye witnesses, or at least within 10 or so years of the time he was purported to be alive.


Well we have hard evidence guys around the time Jesus was on the earth existed. (Pilate, Caiaphas for example) We first heard about these guys from the Bible. Most of the Gospels were written within 20-30 years after the events of the crucifixion. (The writings being done this late should be expected. I imagine as the Church grew, they began writing letters to one another. There may have been more letters closer to 10 years within that event)

That's all I have for now. Yet can I be real for a second. Even if there were eye witness accounts as you say, would you all of a sudden believe then? I doubt it. We got eye witness accounts to a lot of stuff in the ancient past, yet you don't believe those do you?

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:28 PM

You should probably stop claiming there are more historical facts about Jesus than other gods if you can't provide any.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:42 PM

You should probably stop claiming there are more historical facts about Jesus than other gods if you can't provide any.


I just provided the evidence of guys like Pilate and Caiaphas. If those guys were real, chances are the stories concerning them, at least Jesus' preaching, were real as well. Plus we have evidence there was a conjunction of planets and one star around the birth date of Jesus, which could very well be the star mentioned in Matthew's Gospel. There's way more facts dealing with Jesus than I would say, the guys in the list of the OP.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

But the other parts of the Christ birth story is based in pagan folklore. I believe Jesus lived.. It was the adoption of the pagan hero story and miracles that helped develop a hero for the Bible.

There are a lot of old testament books that are not in the King James version bc there were considered way too unrealistic and clearly pagan folklore.

The first book of the bible is Genesis where God curses man for seeking knowledge(blames a woman)

The first book of the bible tells you,as its first major lesson, do not seek knowledge, do not question because you will discover your naked in the forest and you only did so because of an evil goat man tempting you...


So the devil is a goat man...why? Bc these cave stories were told by farmers and shepards... A goat man is just creepy to farmers in pre bi-cameral brain evolution.... But i guess satan is typing this through me.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:52 PM

I just provided the evidence of guys like Pilate and Caiaphas. If those guys were real, chances are the stories concerning them, at least Jesus' preaching, were real as well. Plus we have evidence there was a conjunction of planets and one star around the birth date of Jesus, which could very well be the star mentioned in Matthew's Gospel. There's way more facts dealing with Jesus than I would say, the guys in the list of the OP.


You didn't provide evidence of guys like Pilate and Caiaphas. You said there is evidence, but you didn't provide evidence.

That's irrelevant anyways, because we're talking about evidence of Jesus, not evidence of Pilate. Evidence of Pilate is not evidence of Jesus. Jesus requires his own evidence.

I could say Ben Franklin trained as a ninja with a black samurai named Pretzelbreath, then say "Well there's evidence for Ben Franklin, so for sure Pretzelbreath is real."

Present some of these historical facts or stfu with pretending he's more real than any of the other gods mentioned in the thread.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:00 PM

Jesus is real. Just bought a tamale from him.


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