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Sports cities as awful as Charlotte.

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"Cleveland. The Browns are better this year, but the AFC sucks, and so does Weeden."

The Browns won 5 games this season, one better than the Panthers. Despite Modell screwing over the city and fans, the fans are as passionate and still show up every week, unlike bandwagon Panther fans who only fill the stadium when the team is winning.

"Oakland Raiders, Oakland is the biggest ghetto in Northern California and the Raiders suck."

See above. You'd be hard pressed to find a fan base as rabidly loyal as Raider Nation no matter their record. Experiment: wear your Panther gear into their stadium...

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How many generations have those teams had to build a fan base? 4? We are just getting to our first with the kids who are now reaching adulthood.

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How many generations have those teams had to build a fan base? 4? We are just getting to our first with the kids who are now reaching adulthood.

This, Charlotte is a great sports town considering how young both these franchises are.

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Charlotte has had a lot of success:

ACC championship is held here and (I think) one of the bowl games.

Panthers have had a lot of success in their young history with an incredible QB and HOF receiver. They are also a lot of fun to watch.

UNC-C has finished their football stadium and will start play next year. That program has plans to grow

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Hard to think of any. Charlottes definitely one of the worst

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How many generations have those teams had to build a fan base? 4? We are just getting to our first with the kids who are now reaching adulthood.

With due respect, I think that excuse is getting as old as the read option.

The Raiders were put together in 1960 as an AFL team that was nothing until it merged with the NFL in 1966. So they are maybe a late second generation team as I was 10 years old in '66.

Success will build a fan base quicker and without having to wait for generations, simple as that. The generational excuse is used when the franchise sucks. When the franchise exceeds expectations, that success is credited with building the fanbase. Can't have the convenience of excuses for either.

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Not sure how Cleveland is an awful sports city. Terrible franchises but the fans, which IMO make a sport city are terrific most times.

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Some of the same folks who use that generation excuse are the same ones who say the bobcats don't get support because of a poor product on the court, and they've been in existence a shorter time than the panthers. Well, if the Panthers put a better product on the field, the fans will come. As of now, Charlottes a crap sports town. Bandwagon City.

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atlanta is by far the most disappointing.

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