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NanceUSMC    609

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But if CT has 'at least 1 Firearm Law Designed to Protect Children in Place', then how did this tragedy happen???

I do understand the need, but I'm simply not convinced the answer is as simple as added legislation...

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Kurb    4,984

Bad things will still happen. The fallacy in your thinking is that you believe crime will remain a constant with less guns.

stricter gun regulations = less murders.

I don't agree.

Not in this country at least.

People who follow laws don't murder people.

I guess I'm just a fuging idiot.

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Panthro    9,928

I don't agree.

Not in this country at least.

People who follow laws don't murder people.

I guess I'm just a fuging idiot.

fallacy =/= idiocy

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Delhommey    2,796

But if CT has 'at least 1 Firearm Law Designed to Protect Children in Place', then how did this tragedy happen???

I do understand the need, but I'm simply not convinced the answer is as simple as added legislation...

Because no law is perfect in it's scope and guns are still readily available there.

That doesn't change the fact that overall gun violence is found there at a lesser level overall.

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Kurb    4,984

Guys I'm sorry.

Your willingness to freely give away your rights absolutely terrifies me.

Del, Panthro, I've met you both and thing you are both pretty intelligent people, but your stances on this completely terrifies me.

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stirs    6,508

In regards to the cars vs guns comparison.

It somehow is easier to own a gun than a car.

I would be fine with treating gun ownership like car ownership.

Pay yearly taxes on them, require periodic training classes, and have them inspected and registered yearly.

I understand everyones rush to "do something". Nothing listed here would have prevented the tragedy.

You are going to have to give up on the quick fixes and get both sides to come up with a more comprehensive solution.

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mmmbeans    443

I don't agree.

Not in this country at least.

People who follow laws don't murder people.

nobody breaks the law until they break the law. what madness is this?

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Panthro    9,928

I understand everyones rush to "do something". Nothing listed here would have prevented the tragedy.

You are going to have to give up on the quick fixes and get both sides to come up with a more comprehensive solution.

Well actually her not having a small arsenal would have prevented this tragedy but we are trying to avoid that lettuce patch

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stirs    6,508

Well actually her not having a small arsenal would have prevented this tragedy but we are trying to avoid that lettuce patch

what part of your "solutions package" would have prevented her from having what she had?

Nothing. She would have bought them, paid the taxes, had training and her son would have killed her, took the weapons and did the eventual damage.

But, you feel better, because you DID something. It had no effect on the outcome of the tragedy. That is what I mean by the quick fixes instead of real solutions.

Again, emotion is not a great tool for legislation.

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NanceUSMC    609

Well actually her not having a small arsenal would have prevented this tragedy but we are trying to avoid that lettuce patch

Her having them registered, taxed and annually inspected wouldn't have resolved the issue either, though...

The only thing that STOPS it, would be zero access... Anything else just gets in the way, and the kid simply goes next door, or to a friend, or etc...

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Darth Biscuit    12,500

Her having them registered, taxed and annually inspected wouldn't have resolved the issue either, though...

The only thing that STOPS it, would be zero access... Anything else just gets in the way, and the kid simply goes next door, or to a friend, or etc...

I already made this same argument with Zod in the other thread...

There's no way anyone can prove that if his mom hadn't had those guns, that he wouldn't have gotten them from someone/somewhere else. I will concede that obviously it was easier for him, but to say that if she didn't have them, this wouldn't have happened is just conjecture.

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Delhommey    2,796

Her having them registered, taxed and annually inspected wouldn't have resolved the issue either, though...

The only thing that STOPS it, would be zero access... Anything else just gets in the way, and the kid simply goes next door, or to a friend, or etc...

Seat belts don't prevent 100% of driving related deaths. Therefore, don't wear a seat belt?

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Happy Panther    3,965

Watching CNN and some congressman is on:

"Now is the time for immediate action. There will be no more debates, there will be no more committees. If we can save one child we must ban guns in this country now."

Reminds me of 9-11. This is the liberal 9-11.

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NanceUSMC    609

Seat belts don't prevent 100% of driving related deaths. Therefore, don't wear a seat belt?

I thought we weren't comparing cars and guns?

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Delhommey    2,796

Guys I'm sorry.

Your willingness to freely give away your rights absolutely terrifies me.

Del, Panthro, I've met you both and thing you are both pretty intelligent people, but your stances on this completely terrifies me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

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