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#145 DeeJay

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:31 PM

At the end of the day it's all up to the New GM to keep Rivera or not.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 11:45 PM

I don't see why people hate Chud so much. I really don't get it. I actually like what he's been doing with this offense lately

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:10 AM

I don't see why people hate Chud so much. I really don't get it. I actually like what he's been doing with this offense lately


And that's the whole problem.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:13 AM

they did give up on the read option, though, and our offense is back to what it was last year. That's great to see. A full season of this offense, without trying to get cute, and our team is bad ass. I'd love to see that next season.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:26 AM

I don't see why people hate Chud so much. I really don't get it. I actually like what he's been doing with this offense lately


They tried something that didn't work, so they canned it and went back to what did.

Adjustments. Works for me.

For my part, I think overall Chudzinski is a better play designer than play caller. But again, lately, he's doing okay at both.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:36 AM

I may be one of the few, but I agree with Scot on this one.

I sense a lot of people want to win right away, well there is more of a chance of that happening with a returning Rivera than it would with an entirely new staff, system, etc...

This very likely could be a three year process where Rivera and the Panthers finally get it right in the third year.

However, if the Panthers new GM decides to hire a completely new coaching staff that runs an entirely new system (pretty much everyone except Chip Kelly, Chip's offense is somewhat similar to our current one), then we are in another rebuilding mode, a.k.a another two more seasons before we are going to be a playoff team.

Give Rivera one more go at if the season starts off poorly (0-3, 0-4 etc...) just can him early.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:48 AM

I may be one of the few, but I agree with Scot on this one.

I sense a lot of people want to win right away, well there is more of a chance of that happening with a returning Rivera than it would with an entirely new staff, system, etc...

This very likely could be a three year process where Rivera and the Panthers finally get it right in the third year.

However, if the Panthers new GM decides to hire a completely new coaching staff that runs an entirely new system (pretty much everyone except Chip Kelly, Chip's offense is somewhat similar to our current one), then we are in another rebuilding mode, a.k.a another two more seasons before we are going to be a playoff team.

Give Rivera one more go at if the season starts off poorly (0-3, 0-4 etc...) just can him early.


The problem there is that if we roll into next season with Rivera on that tight of a leash (and you would need to as his MO to date is to win when it doesn't matter) you've effectively tanked the entire season if he screws up. You may as well just keep him as a lame duck because you're not going to get a new, quality coach midway through the season. So add another year to that turnaround time while we get the pleasure of watching yet another shitbag of a season from the Panthers.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:56 AM

The problem there is that if we roll into next season with Rivera on that tight of a leash (and you would need to as his MO to date is to win when it doesn't matter) you've effectively tanked the entire season if he screws up. You may as well just keep him as a lame duck because you're not going to get a new, quality coach midway through the season. So add another year to that turnaround time while we get the pleasure of watching yet another shitbag of a season from the Panthers.


I'm just not into the musical chairs coaching carousel. In my opinion, a 7-9 season with an improvement toward the end of the season calls for one more year. I personally believe that Rivera and the gang will get it right on the third try. We know what makes this team tick, so stay with it at all times.

Pretty simple in my opinion.

There is only one coach out there that I personally think would be a better COACH than Rivera for the Panthers and that's David Shaw. I know most people don't like Rivera, but I'm under the impression that Rivera is a very in-house coach. He doesn't show much emotion unless he is really mad but in the locker room (in-house) he gets in his players face and tells it how it is. To me that is an admirable trait and I personally wouldn't mind seeing him roam the sidelines for at least one more year.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:57 AM

I may be one of the few, but I agree with Scot on this one.

I sense a lot of people want to win right away, well there is more of a chance of that happening with a returning Rivera than it would with an entirely new staff, system, etc...

This very likely could be a three year process where Rivera and the Panthers finally get it right in the third year.

However, if the Panthers new GM decides to hire a completely new coaching staff that runs an entirely new system (pretty much everyone except Chip Kelly, Chip's offense is somewhat similar to our current one), then we are in another rebuilding mode, a.k.a another two more seasons before we are going to be a playoff team.

Give Rivera one more go at if the season starts off poorly (0-3, 0-4 etc...) just can him early.


heads up, your plan sucks

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:00 AM

heads up, your plan sucks


I'm guessing you don't coach, canning coaches after two years rarely works to the benefit of the team... see those Raiders you mentioned.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:01 AM

I'm guessing you don't coach, canning coaches after two years rarely works to the benefit of the team... see those Raiders you mentioned.


neither does being content with your 1-12 in one score games head coach while opportunities pass you by

I'm guessing you weren't posting this crap when we were getting poo on in the 4th quarter nearly every single week earlier on in the season.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 01:03 AM

neither does being content with your 1-12 in one score games head coach while opportunities pass you by


That leans more in the direction of Chud (you know the guy that calls the plays).