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#76 Ruff

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:00 PM

I really don't think Rivera will be here next year, but Chud sure as hell better not be. Chud sucks. Horribly.

I think I'd be okay with McDermott staying, depending on what kind of defense we plan on using going forward.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:05 PM

I really don't think Rivera will be here next year, but Chud sure as hell better not be. Chud sucks. Horribly.

I think I'd be okay with McDermott staying, depending on what kind of defense we plan on using going forward.

I seriously LOL'd when I read your post, it's sooo funny because it's soooo clueless

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:07 PM

I seriously LOL'd when I read your post, it's sooo funny because it's soooo clueless


It's clueless because of what? You assume that Rivera is actually the one running the defense? You believe that it's Rivera's work that is getting the defensive line to play so well, as opposed to McDermott?

No, I understand.

Do I know how much that Rivera has to do with the defense? No, I don't. But, I believe that this is, in essence, McDermott's defense. (Or Washington's, but that's not the point.)

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:09 PM

Rolls eyes



That's exactly what I do every time you post

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:12 PM

He lost to the Chiefs and beat a Chargers team that gave up on the season 5 weeks ago


You might wanna check last week's scoreboard.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:13 PM

Also take in account how many key injuries we have, not making any excuses. Just getting it done.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:17 PM

It's clueless because of what? You assume that Rivera is actually the one running the defense? You believe that it's Rivera's work that is getting the defensive line to play so well, as opposed to McDermott?

No, I understand.

Do I know how much that Rivera has to do with the defense? No, I don't. But, I believe that this is, in essence, McDermott's defense. (Or Washington's, but that's not the point.)

You have in one hand you have the best DC in the NFL of the last 10 years(one of the bigger reasons he got the Job here)

And in the other you have McDermott who was fired after 1 season in Philly.

And who do you think has the bigger overall impact on the Defense?

The Guy that got fired for not getting the Job done after 1 season in Philly.

makes perfect sense?

Not at all

Not saying McDermott bears no responsibility, but if you don't think Rivera is Coaching the guy up you're out of your mind.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:18 PM

I'm feeling Rivera will be here. It just seems like the team is playing hard and there is such little talk outside of the fans about Rivera being replaced.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:18 PM

I think Cam staying on fire is the only thing that could save Rivera.

JR views Cam as his ticket. New scheme means set back next year to a degree. If Cam finishes at this pace Rivera might get one more shot....just so Cam can continue in the same offense

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:21 PM

Radio guys interviewed Tolbert post game. He said he hopes the staff is all back next year.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:21 PM

We just won consecutive games for the first time since last December.

We should stick with Rivera. By 2024 we'll be stringing together 4 or 5.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

You have in one hand you have the best DC in the NFL of the last 10 years(one of the bigger reasons he got the Job here)

And in the other you have McDermott who was fired after 1 season in Philly.

And who do you think has the bigger overall impact on the Defense?

The Guy that got fired for not getting the Job done after 1 season in Philly.

makes perfect sense?

Not at all

Not saying McDermott bears no responsibility, but if you don't think Rivera is Coaching the guy up you're out of your mind.


You're judging different situations. Just because a guy was fired after one season as the DC (even though he was actually with the Eagles, studying under Jim Johnson for 11 years) doesn't mean that he was a terrible DC. He was scapegoated, for not being Jim Johnson (anyone in that situation would've been fired, most likely).

However, you have Rivera who was fired after two seasons in Chicago, went to have a very good defense in San Diego. However, that style defense and this style defense were completely different. Most notably, Rivera's San Diego defense was a pass-rushing, 34 defense, much like the one they still are using. McDermott's defense being a more pulled back, front four pass rushing (though, admittedly, the Eagles blitzed more while McD was there) that you are seeing today.

Also, you've obviously not been to a Panthers' training camp/practice, or else you would see who's coaching the defense up. Rivera is doing his Head Coach duties, which is respectable, but McDermott is the one fired up, screaming at the defensive players, telling them when and where to be.

Sorry you think my post was "uninformed". Maybe next time you should use that term a little less loosely.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:24 PM

It will come down to the next two games and what coaches ate available and interested. If he continues winning and no other proven head coaches are available, he'll probably be back.

My concern is the same as everyone else's--it is easier to win when nothing is on the line.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:24 PM

Doc Holiday falling into the "what have you done for me lately" trap.

Let me know when a Rivera led team wins a meaningful football team. Hell, let me know when a Rivera led team is simply playing in a meaningful football game. We're already out of the picture and afterthoughts before a meaningful game takes place.

#90 KendrickPanther

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:24 PM

Everyone loved Chud last year. He did some dumb stuff early this season and now he's worse than Jeff Davidson. The reality is Chud is ok. He can be great if he uses some common sense. Sometimes he can't see the forest from the trees. Rivera made some horrid game management decisions that may not be correctable. It could just be flawed logic on his part. I do give Rivera credit for the improvements on D.


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