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[b] What is Paranoia?[/b]

Paranoia involves feelings of persecution and an exaggerated sense of self-importance. Paranoia occurs in many mental disorders and is rare as an isolated mental illness. Since the delusions involve only one area, a person with paranoia can usually work and function in everyday life, however, their lives may be limited and isolated. There are different types of paranoia including conjugal paranoia, erotomania, hypochondriacal paranoia, and different types of paranoid disorders such as paranoid personality and paranoid schizophrenia.
[b] Symptoms of Paranoia:[/b]

Symptoms of paranoia and paranoid disorders include intense and irrational mistrust or suspicion, which can bring on sense of rage, hatred, and betrayal. Some people suffering from paranoid personality may have a high capacity to annoy or enrage others because of rigid and maladaptive behavior. Some identifiable beliefs and actions of paranoid-related disorders include mistrust, taking offense easily, difficulty with forgiveness, defensive attitude in response to imagined criticism, preoccupation with hidden motives, fear of being deceived or taken advantage of, inability to relax, argumentative, abrupt, stubborn, self-righteous, and perfectionistic.
[b] What Causes Paranoia?[/b]

The cause of paranoia is a breakdown of various mental and emotional functions involving reasoning and assigned meanings. The reasons for these breakdowns are varied and uncertain. Some symptoms of paranoia may arise from repressed, denied or projected feelings. Paranoid thoughts and feelings can become part of a delusional system through an accident, a misunderstanding or minor injustice, heightened intimacy, or increased responsibility.
[b] Treatment of Paranoia[/b]

Treatment of paranoia is usually via behavior therapy which is aimed at reducing sensitivity to criticism and improving social skills. It can be difficult to treat a person with paranoia as they may be irritable, emotionally guarded, hostile, and unwilling; therefore, progress is slow. Therapy attempts to break the cycle of suspicion and isolation by using relaxation and anxiety management and by aiding the person to change certain behaviors.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/192621.php

[b]Delusions[/b] - beliefs that are not real; false personal beliefs that are not subject to reason or contradictory evidence. The patient may firmly believe something, even though there is incontrovertible evidence that it is false. En example may be a belief that a neighbor is plotting to kill or poison the patient.
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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1355753180' post='2050528']
good lord we are all doomed if I am the only one who sees this thread as bat poo crazy
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Care to discredit anything in the thread then, Mr Voice of Reason? Care to explain what happened to the second guy. Care to explain how all the 100 hundred or so rounds that were fired came from a rifle while the rifle was actually found in the trunk of the guys car and not on his dead body? Care to explain how he pulled all this off by himself in a matter of a few minutes?

Go ahead, tackle any of them, but don't just spout of ad hominem attacks.

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I only believe in conspiracies when smoking weed. I also hide in a closet convinced the neighbors are listening to me.

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I'm open to the discussion, that's why the thread exists. I'm not making any claims. All I did was put the information that was documented in the OP. Go ahead, explain it for me. Explain the holes in the story, explain why the video of them pulling the rifle out of the guys trunk doesn't exist. Explain why the person that they arrested and hauled off, doesn't exist.

Go for it guys.

I'll be waiting.
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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1355754448' post='2050556']
I only believe in conspiracies when smoking weed. I also hide in a closet convinced the neighbors are listening to me.
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I take that as an admission that you can't. You just want to blindly believe what you're told without critical thinking. Perhaps it's just that you lack the ability to think for yourself?
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I'm not going either way on this, but it is interesting info...

Answer me this... if the conspiracy part of this is true, then what's the end game? What does killing innocent children do?

I know the theory about the kids killed by their nanny in NYC was supposedly a retribution type thing... but that wouldn't be the case in this shooting would it, since the shooter was allegedly the one with the connections.

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[quote name='Floppin' timestamp='1355754391' post='2050555']
Care to discredit anything in the thread then, Mr Voice of Reason? Care to explain what happened to the second guy. Care to explain how all the 100 hundred or so rounds that were fired came from a rifle while the rifle was actually found in the trunk of the guys car and not on his dead body? Care to explain how he pulled all this off by himself in a matter of a few minutes?

Go ahead, tackle any of them, but don't just spout of ad hominem attacks.
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a) a guy was walking in the woods near the school. Probably happens every day.

b 60 rounds were fired. The assault rifle that fired them was next to his body. Go ahead and fire off 60 rounds in quick succession... 99% of the public will say 100 rounds if asked how many

Of course, I typed that in vein as you conspiracy lunatics will just toss them aside even though they are they obvious truth, but a bit boring for their paranoia.

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[quote name='Floppin' timestamp='1355754567' post='2050563']

I take that as an admission that you can't. You just want to blindly believe what you're told without critical thinking. Perhaps it's just that you lack the ability to think for yourself?
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Ah yes, the inevitable response from a conspiracy theorist,

I am smarter than you, you can't think on your own, yada yada yada.


Direct from the play book.

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[quote name='Panthro' timestamp='1355754316' post='2050554']
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[b] Symptoms of Paranoia:[/b]

Symptoms of paranoia and paranoid disorders include intense and irrational mistrust or suspicion, which can bring on sense of rage, hatred, and betrayal. Some people suffering from paranoid personality may have a high capacity to annoy or enrage others because of rigid and maladaptive behavior. Some identifiable beliefs and actions of paranoid-related disorders include mistrust, taking offense easily, difficulty with forgiveness, defensive attitude in response to imagined criticism, preoccupation with hidden motives, fear of being deceived or taken advantage of, inability to relax, argumentative, abrupt, stubborn, self-righteous, and perfectionistic.
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Just going to quote this again....

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The LIBOR thing is interesting. I have been curious about the 2nd "shooter" however. I saw multiple reports where they arrested a guy near the scene who claimed "I didn't do it". Now there is nothing out there about him at all.

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[quote name='nc_biscuit' timestamp='1355754586' post='2050564']
I'm not going either way on this, but it is interesting info...

Answer me this... if the conspiracy part of this is true, then what's the end game? What does killing innocent children do?

I know the theory about the kids killed by their nanny in NYC was supposedly a retribution type thing... but that wouldn't be the case in this shooting would it, since the shooter was allegedly the one with the connections.
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It was his dad with the connections. Just like the Aurora shooting. It really depends on how deep you want to go with the conspiracy. If you want to believe that they were mind controlled and made to do these things...well that's one but probably the least likely.

The most probable, is that the Aurora shooter was drugged and just left at the scene, he was visibly, and by witness testimony, out of sorts, even during his initial courtroom proceedings.

The Sandy Hook guy was most likely just killed and dumped on the scene.

If you believe the Libor connections, these were warning cases to keep the parents quite on the testimony. After all you can't just outright kill them, people would catch on.

It also could have larger implications on national security and police state things, but that's all if you believe the government is involved, which I don't necessarily believe, but it's possible.

I don't really believe one way or another, but I like to take all the facts into consideration.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1355754675' post='2050567']
Sigh

a) a guy was walking in the woods near the school. Probably happens every day.

[b]b 60 rounds were fired. The assault rifle that fired them was next to his body. Go ahead and fire off 60 rounds in quick succession... 99% of the public will say 100 rounds if asked how many[/b]

Of course, I typed that in vein as you conspiracy lunatics will just toss them aside even though they are they obvious truth, but a bit boring for their paranoia.
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False, did you even read the OP? I posted a fuging video of them pulling the assault rifle out of his trunk. It was not found on his body. He fired more than 60 rounds. Read the medical examiner's report. EACH person was hit between 3-11 times. at 26 people, if they were all only hit three times, that's already more than your 60 round claim.
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