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#61 Lumps

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:05 PM

Good for them. Can't WAIT for a new owner, you guys will see we will finally begin to win.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

I can't understand why everyone is so butt hurt over this ad. Someone, be it a group or individual, spent quite a bit of money to express their opinion as they have every right to do.

Are all of you going to tell me that none of their points have merit? Is there maybe some truth in what has been written? So what's the problem?

I find it telling that some of the PSL owners that have posted in this thread have no problem with the ad, while many that do not own PSL's think it is blasphemous. I just don't get it...

#63 Panthercougar68

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:13 PM

I know a few Ravens fans that are mad at their front office because they believe Harbaugh is not a good coach...I poo you not.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:18 PM

I can't understand why everyone is so butt hurt over this ad. Someone, be it a group or individual, spent quite a bit of money to express their opinion as they have every right to do.

Are all of you going to tell me that none of their points have merit? Is there maybe some truth in what has been written? So what's the problem?

I find it telling that some of the PSL owners that have posted in this thread have no problem with the ad, while many that do not own PSL's think it is blasphemous. I just don't get it...


I'm a psl owner and thought most of it was rubbish

#65 jayflip

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:22 PM

I wish I were a PSL owner, so I could have an opinion on the matter.

#66 Brooklyn Bully

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 11:39 PM

I see no problem with the letter. JR has failed as an owner in terms of providing a winning product. He's done fine as an owner in terms of making money. Fans don't care about the second thing. They care about the first. JR being a nice guy who'll have lunch with you, and a sweet old man with a fake heart, and a hero who brought us football means jack in 2012. The only thing that matters is we excel as an organization. That has yet to happen in team history. When you're at the top, you get called out. He got called out. Simple as that.

#67 Marguide

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:03 AM

I'm a psl owner and thought most of it was rubbish


I'm not, and for that fact I believe you should have a greater say than I do. I haven't made the investment you have and presumably you've done it over a number of years.

Much of the letter may indeed be rubbish, but the point remains that assuming this is a group of PSL owners, they sure as hell have a big stake in the team and should be listened to.

#68 thatlookseasy

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:21 AM

Hey, if this letter is enough to get Rivera fired than I'm all for it.

Still dont get why JR is a cheap owner since he has spent near the salary cap every year except 2010, but whatever.

#69 MadHatter

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:15 AM

I have no issue with the letter. People spend a lot of money on PSL's and tickets. And, they have a right to give their opinion.

However, as some have already said:

1. It was mmarginally written for "business executives"
2. If you really want to be taken seriously, nut up and sign the letter instead of pussing out behind some anonymous group name

#70 Anybodyhome

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 06:25 AM

"I find it telling that some of the PSL owners that have posted in this thread have no problem with the ad, while many that do not own PSL's think it is blasphemous. I just don't get it... "

This is a very interesting point. As a former PSL owner of 18 seasons, I agree with the basic points of the letter/ad. I don't think the points were as eloquently illustrated as they could have been- nowhere close to a hand drawn, single sheet of paper, Sharpie and a pie chart- but they are valid points nonetheless.

I think a question to ponder might be why is there a differing perception of the team, the organization and the management by PSL owners and non-PSL owners?

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:14 AM

A lot of non psl supporters of this team probably spend more of there money by % on this team.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:15 AM

Their* cant edit on my phone.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:53 AM

A lot of non psl supporters of this team probably spend more of there money by % on this team.


Ummmm....no

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:18 AM

I have never thought he was cheap barring 2010, but being cheap and not spending wisely are two different things. The second I believe was our MO for years, which I"m hoping will begin to change. Ernie, get on it.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:49 AM

I have never thought he was cheap barring 2010, but being cheap and not spending wisely are two different things. The second I believe was our MO for years, which I"m hoping will begin to change. Ernie, get on it.


That's a distinction a lot of folks don't get.

Honestly though, you'd have to lay a fair amount of that at Hurney's feet too.