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The reason Rivera shouldn't return.

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I don't know why everyone insists a new GM = new coach. The Giants changed GMs without changing coaches, as did the Eagles.

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We know it's not Madden, but Rivera hasn't done anything that says we need to keep him. Putting him on a leash for next season which is what most of the posters on the board has suggested means nothing. If you have to put a coach on a short leash then it means they don't need to be here to begin with. No one never said it would be easy and yes coaches do have rough starts. It's not about that though, it's about how we loss the games in certain fashion. It's about what it took to get to this level which was the jobs of a couple people which includes the GM.

What happens next year if we start off 0-3 or 0-4? This board will go crazy and want Rivera fired. It would be another wasted season and more wasted time.

We made this mistake in 2010 when we let fox go and not let Marty go also. We can't make this mistake again. It will set us back even further.

We can't really go into next season with Rivera on a short leash. Say he stumbles out of the block to a 0-3 or 1-4 record. Well, it sucks to be us, at least we can look forward to meaningless December games. We can't fire him for the same reasons we didn't drop him mid season this year - nobody to run a practice and all the HC candidates are currently employed.

I mean, true, Cam didn't have to learn a new system, but he'd have to the following year anyways. We just wasted another season getting there.

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We know it's not Madden, but Rivera hasn't done anything that says we need to keep him. Putting him on a leash for next season which is what most of the posters on the board has suggested means nothing. If you have to put a coach on a short leash then it means they don't need to be here to begin with. No one never said it would be easy and yes coaches do have rough starts. It's not about that though, it's about how we loss the games in certain fashion. It's about what it took to get to this level which was the jobs of a couple people which includes the GM.

What happens next year if we start off 0-3 or 0-4? This board will go crazy and want Rivera fired. It would be another wasted season and more wasted time.

We made this mistake in 2010 when we let fox go and not let Marty go also. We can't make this mistake again. It will set us back even further.

He has done some good things.Its not easy having a top ten defense when you had questionable talent to start coupled with multiple injuries.His biggest mistake was allowing Chud to use the read option as our base offense.Can you correct that yes.Lets focus on the things we cannot correct before hiring a new coach.We dont say get rid of Cam because he has had accuracy problems because they can be corrected.

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Keeping him as DC solves both problems.

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He has done some good things.Its not easy having a top ten defense when you had questionable talent to start coupled with multiple injuries.His biggest mistake was allowing Chud to use the read option as our base offense.Can you correct that yes.Lets focus on the things we cannot correct before hiring a new coach.

I'm not denying the fact that he improved the defense some what I gave him credit the past couple of weeks on the defensive front. But let's not act like our defense hasn't had any struggles. Remember Chicago, Tampa Bay, Giants, Denver, and not to mention we almost gave up 200 yds to a running back who hasn't started since high school which is Bryce Brown. If he didn't never fumble so many times we would have loss that game too but that's another story.

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He has done some good things.Its not easy having a top ten defense when you had questionable talent to start coupled with multiple injuries.His biggest mistake was allowing Chud to use the read option as our base offense.Can you correct that yes.Lets focus on the things we cannot correct before hiring a new coach.

It took the General Manager getting fired this season for him to do his job and adjust his scheme. You also can't talk about Chud as if he's this pesky rogue agent that's sabotaging Rivera at every turn. Ron approves the game plan on both sides of the ball. Ron approved the retarded switch of our offensive focus the past off season.

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It took the General Manager getting fired this season for him to do his job and adjust his scheme. You also can't talk about Chud as if he's this pesky rogue agent that's sabotaging Rivera at every turn. Ron approves the game plan on both sides of the ball. Ron approved our retarded switch of our offensive focus the past off season.

I said he was allowing Chud to run the offense .I agree he is the HC and its his call but that is something you can change.It the things we cannot change about Rivera that keep me up at night.

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Wasn't Hurney fired week 6? We didn't start adjusting and getting better til about week 10 or 11. Even then, we lost to the Chiefs.

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Wasn't Hurney fired week 6? We didn't start adjusting and getting better til about week 10 or 11. Even then, we lost to the Chiefs.

Yep and that is a big concern is how and why we lost that game..no doubt

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It took the General Manager getting fired this season for him to do his job and adjust his scheme. You also can't talk about Chud as if he's this pesky rogue agent that's sabotaging Rivera at every turn. Ron approves the game plan on both sides of the ball. Ron approved our retarded switch of our offensive focus the past off season.

Ron approved the read option bc it worked like 1000% of the time last season it seemed...we all thought it was the bees knees too...

we see as Rivera saw that it can be rendered ineffective as a base offense. He has since adjusted and now the scoring and consistency has increased as well.

How many sad threads would have been made if Chud got hired elsewhere?

Year 3 should decide if the Mayans allow it.

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If the players love Rivera so be it, this is the best possible reason to have Rivera and company on board for the next season.

Do not disrup the harmony !!!!

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If the players love Rivera so be it, this is the best possible reason to have Rivera and company on board for the next season.

Do not disrup the harmony !!!!

Re-hire Hurney!

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