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Pete Carroll and Mike Shanahan.

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Seahawks- 2010 season; 7-9. 2011 Season; 7-9. 2012; 9-5.
Redskins- 2010 Season; 6-10. 2011 Season; 5-11. 2012 Season; 8-6

I bet fans said the exact same thing about these 2 HCs deserving to be fired after their mediocre 2nd seasons, and now look at them. If we win out and go 7-9, that will be good enough improvement to warrant another year. Lets remember that Rivera inherited a 2-14 team with Jimmy freaking Clausen.

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uhhhh seattle had old ass matt hasselbeck and tavaris jackson... then in year 3, russell wilson!
washington had mcnabb/grossman and beck/grossman... then in year 3, robert griffin iii!

we've had cam newton this whole time.
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Both of those guys are also VPs within the organization and have NFL head coaching experience.

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[quote name='PantherTrain84' timestamp='1355769532' post='2050961']
Seahawks- 2010 season; 7-9. 2011 Season; 7-9. 2012; 9-5.
Redskins- 2010 Season; 6-10. 2011 Season; 5-11. 2012 Season; 8-6

I bet fans said the exact same thing about these 2 HCs deserving to be fired after their mediocre 2nd seasons, and now look at them. If we win out and go 7-9, that will be good enough improvement to warrant another year. [size=4][b]Lets remember that Rivera inherited a 2-14 team with Jimmy freaking Clausen.[/b][/size]
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According to many on this board we are just overflowing with talent.

So which is it? Is Rivera a terrible coach, or do we not have as much talent as people keep saying?
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We string two wins together for the first time in a whole year and suddenly Rivera is a legend.

Just stop already. Let's atleast see how we play our final two games before we go full retard.
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[quote name='TheRed' timestamp='1355770103' post='2050990']
We string two wins together for the first time in a whole year and suddenly Rivera is a legend.

Just stop already. Let's atleast see how we play our final two games before we go full retard.
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I totally agree with the first sentence- the genius of Bill Walsh now lives in Ron Rivera.... puh-leeze.

With respect to "full retard"... I'm thinking we're already there based upon [i]way[/i] too many threads about this in the last 24 hours...

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Seattle made the Playoffs in Carroll's first season

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I guess Rivera all of a sudden became a King of Charlotte after wins of the Eagles and SD.

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Even a Rivera led team could have made the playoffs in the NFC West that year.
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[quote name='carolina-chuck' timestamp='1355770550' post='2051010']
Seattle made the Playoffs in Carroll's first season
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With a fugging 7-9 record. That division was god awful, Rivera could have made the playoffs in that situation.

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[quote name='TheRed' timestamp='1355770103' post='2050990']
We string two wins together for the first time in a whole year and suddenly Rivera is a legend.

Just stop already. Let's atleast see how we play our final two games before we go full retard.
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This. (sorta)

I'm ridiculously torn between keepin or firing rivera. He is by no means whatsoever a legend. He's still rather awful. But part of me thinks he could do good with *one* more year.

Then again, I'd rather have a new coach.

But I don't want a coach that's equally bad or worse....

For me it just depends on who we'd get as a replacement.

I don't think anyone's saying he's a great coach. Just that he could do well from a third year.

I agreed with the quoted post because of the people who say he "deserves" a third year.

He doesn't.

But the players love him, and I feel like we could do worse then give him a third year. As long as we're not giving up a better coach by doing so.
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[quote name='TheRed' timestamp='1355770850' post='2051023']
With a fugging 7-9 record. That division was god awful, Rivera could have made the playoffs in that situation.
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Still he made the playoffs. Im sure their fans werent calling for his head.

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