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According to the Stats, Our Offensive Line Sucks

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#31 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:44 AM

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:06 AM

A big thing that skews the statistics for the left side is that a majority of the team's option plays go to that side :(

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:20 AM

You can't judge an individuals performance on the oline based on the result of the play. Gross is playing fine and wins his match ups far more often than he loses. Based on their ranking stats you could pancake your opposing player but someone else could whiff and let the defence into the backfield, it just makes no sense. PFF have him graded absolutely fine and they don't consider how we'll the ball carrier did, just how well gross dealt with the players opposite him.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:09 PM

You can't judge an individuals performance on the oline based on the result of the play. Gross is playing fine and wins his match ups far more often than he loses. Based on their ranking stats you could pancake your opposing player but someone else could whiff and let the defence into the backfield, it just makes no sense. PFF have him graded absolutely fine and they don't consider how we'll the ball carrier did, just how well gross dealt with the players opposite him.


Consider this as well- during the Dallas game we ran to the left where Gross sealed the DE inside which left Tolbert to block Ware- who completely whiffed and went for no gain. The OL did their job flawlessly, but that's not reflected in the stats.

People have to realize that stats, good or bad, are a piece of the puzzle, not the whole picture.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:14 PM

I'm still waiting for you to respond chuck.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:50 PM

Does anyone see us taking an OL with our first round pick?

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:10 PM

Source????????

Also like others mentioned, I believed the horrible read options early where we get tackled for negative yards makes this line's stats look worst.

A stat I would like to see is some sort of average time in the pocket or before pressure.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:12 PM

I don't know what's wrong with Gross. There was one play yesterday when the Chargers sent extra men on our left side. In spite of the extra targets, Gross ended up blocking no one. Debate all you want about his abilities, but I've never seen that kind of total and complete whiff from him.

Could he really be aging that quickly or is something else going on? It's very puzzling to me.


To me, as well. I don't get it.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:29 PM

Does anyone see us taking an OL with our first round pick?


I don't and hope we don't.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 03:52 PM

A big thing that skews the statistics for the left side is that a majority of the team's option plays go to that side :(

that's one of the things to factor into the whole "you're doing it wrong" thing.



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