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#16 bababoey

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:45 AM

Are you insulating that somehow Johnson is overrated? Wow, I've heard it all 10.5 sacks and 7 FF. 29.5 sacks in a three season span.......


So you are saying you have a overrated johnson? Is this where someone says "that's what she said"? Just asking

#17 carolinarolls

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:12 AM

...well sombody's gonna

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:25 AM

Are you insulating that somehow Johnson is overrated? Wow, I've heard it all 10.5 sacks and 7 FF. 29.5 sacks in a three season span.......


Well said JT:

CJ deserved every penny of that contract and is earning it or he would be doing that for the Falcons fo about the same cash..your choice shortsighted members of the Huddle.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:35 AM

we really, really dodged a bullet not letting him go to atlanta. seriously imagine him book ending abraham instead of kroy biermann or lawrence sidbury or whoever the fug they're propping up on the other side of that line.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 09:52 AM

I would think it'd be more economical to try to extend him this offseason, before he goes and has another monster season next year, then his contract runs out and it's up to the highest bidder. Of course, that'll be tough with the way our cap is looking this coming year but if they can work it out to lock the Kraken up for another 5 or so years for less than what we'd have to pay him in 2014 it'll be worth not signing a mid-tier FA or two.

I like that idea...

#21 Navy_football

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:00 AM

Agreed this offseason is the time to lock him in for a reasonable amount. This dilemma will actually play into this year's draft. Older guys like Gross with hefty salaries may be in jeopardy because of the need to lock in young, dynamic talent like Hardy and Kuechly. Also don't think Godfrey will survive the triage with his contract.

And we better start worrying about Cam right now. When his contract is up, he'll be top 5 highest paid in the league. We'd better lock up some of these other concerns before his time comes.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:04 AM

we really, really dodged a bullet not letting him go to atlanta. seriously imagine him book ending abraham instead of kroy biermann or lawrence sidbury or whoever the fug they're propping up on the other side of that line.


Seriously...if he wasn't a Panther he would 100% be a Falcon right now.

*Vomits in mouth at the thought of CJ in red.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:07 AM

I don't even want to think about this...

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:33 AM

You don't lock up the Kraken long term until it's absolutely necessary. His nickname is fitting because much like the mythical Kraken we have very little control over him, we simply release him on Sundays. He's good for a dumb offseason incident or two every year and while his antics against ATL were productive, that sort of stuff can be a double edged sword. Bottom line is the Kraken will destroy, the kraken will feast, on whom is the question!

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:39 AM

First we've got figure out how to keep Chud from getting a head coaching job!

insert Norv Turner

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:26 PM

Paging Mr Beane


:-( fug

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 01:38 PM

charles johnson's contract had a huge signing bonus that resulted in a really big number that media outlets could sling around (omg 6 years/$76 million and he's not julius peppers jared allen or dwight freeney wtf is going on here) but his cap hit is actually not overly cumbersome. it's actually on the mid-low end of the scale for a-list passrushers like the aforementioned. johnson's cap hit was $11 million this year and should be $13 million next year where as allen's was greater than $15 million and will go above $17 million next year. peppers' cap hit was $12.4 million this season and will reach $16.4 million next year.


This^

Everyone made a big deal out of it at the time because we gave so much guaranteed money to a guy with only a couple good seasons. It was a big risk because if he got complacent and his production fell, it would have been very hard to get out of that contract. But he has actually been quite good and that contract is looking just fine. I would rather not give that same deal to Hardy though because he seems a bit unpredictable.

Now the contracts we gave the RBs, on the other hand...

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:05 PM

Agreed this offseason is the time to lock him in for a reasonable amount. This dilemma will actually play into this year's draft. Older guys like Gross with hefty salaries may be in jeopardy because of the need to lock in young, dynamic talent like Hardy and Kuechly. Also don't think Godfrey will survive the triage with his contract.

And we better start worrying about Cam right now. When his contract is up, he'll be top 5 highest paid in the league. We'd better lock up some of these other concerns before his time comes.


We can't lock up Cam or Luke, they are still under their rookie contracts.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 05:25 PM

We can't lock up Cam or Luke, they are still under their rookie contracts.


I didn't mean Cam or Luke this offseason. Just stating that moves need to be made ahead of time in preparation for their upcoming increases. Cam only has 2 more seasons left on his rookie contract.

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 10:10 PM

With all of the qb hurries big money has, those in booka count for interceptions and forced bad decisions, add the force fumbles, Johnson has to be in the top 5 without me digging for stats.