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Did Cam have a sophmore slump or did Chud?

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#16 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 11:57 AM

Both.

When Chud stopped messing, and Cam stopped pressing, the offense was no longer perplexing.


I see what you did there.

I agree.

#17 Salvo

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:03 PM

I tend to agree...it's a bit of both.

While Cam still is overthrowing some balls and Chud continues to call some boneheaded plays at times, the frequency for both has been limited the past few weeks.

They've been able to slow the game down. Apart from the Chiefs game, the Panthers have been excellent in the time of possession and on 3rd downs. Cam is throwing shorter passes to maximize the gains achieved for each down and Chud has been showing more of a commitment to the power running game.

It's just a shame all this didn't happen sooner.

#18 teeray

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:04 PM

Yes

#19 jtnc

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

Chud is one egotistical sonofabitch he knew the option was killing Cam's mechanics, but he stayed with it ad our base offense for 13 games, thinking it would just magically gel.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:06 AM

Chud is one egotistical sonofabitch he knew the option was killing Cam's mechanics, but he stayed with it ad our base offense for 13 games, thinking it would just magically gel.

The option shouldn't have been an option after the giants game if you ask me.

#21 rdog157h

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:22 AM

Both.

When Chud stopped messing, and Cam stopped pressing, the offense was no longer perplexing.


Al Sharpton digs this!

#22 ThunderKatt

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:32 AM

Al Sharpton digs this!

Or Jessie Jackson

#23 Who Said What?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 10:30 AM

Chud was calling mularkey and I like how someone put it that it messed with Cam's mechanics. 95%-5% Chud.

#24 Darth Biscuit

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 11:13 AM

I think the answer is that it was more Chud than Cam.

Cam did not play that well in the first part of the season, but I still put far more blame on the base offense that was installed and the playcalling for the offensive issues we had.

#25 The_Mango55

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

I don't think saying they put too much on his plate is throwing him under the bus.

Stupid people who don't follow the panthers and hate cam because they think he is a selfish primadonna assume "simplifying the offense" meant Cam wasn't smart enough to play QB so we went to a college system, when actually we are simplifying by making it closer to pro-style.

#26 Chimera

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:37 PM

You can look at the pass that Cam threw against Seattle into the dirt at the 1 yard line and see that his mechanics were way off. He was throwing 10 feet over the receivers head missing wide open guys and playing poorly. Secondly how many times has Newton come back in the last 5 minutes of a game to win it on a pressure drive. I can't think of many at all.


I believe the Seattle game was Cam's worst as a pro. As for that play at the end, the play was busted from the start. A linebacker just happened to slip; that's the only reason Hartsock was open in the first place. The throw itself was desperation on a surprise receiver when Cam was running for his life. Of course his mechanics were going to be off.

As far as game winning drives, he's led us up the field on several occasions, but other things have happened outside of Cam's control. Goodson going east-west instead of north-south on 4th down in week 1 last season. Mare missing an easy fieldgoal against the Vikings. The aforementioned throw to the dirt...

#27 Keith Moons Liver

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:06 PM

I don't think you can say the coaches had a slump. It's not like they have ever proven themselves capable of consistent success. They were at their normal level, not slumping. It just so happens their normal level sucks.

#28 ThunderKatt

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:08 PM

lol

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:55 PM

When the coaches talk about taking stuff off Cam's plate, they meant more that they made him less responsible for where the ball went (i.e. fewer zone reads) by giving him plays that were actual handoffs instead of having to make all the decisions. Has nothing to do with Cam's mental capacity, just redistributing the workload to his capable teammates.



What this person said in a nutshell.

What Chud said, IMO, has nothing to do with Cam intellect or lack there of. I think many were pretty much saying that Cam had to much on his plate before Chud acknowledged it. Cam needs to simply be a QB and let everyone else play their role.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:11 PM

Cam is better this year no doubt



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