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Let me guess, the stat they care about is wins? I guess Rivera or whoever is coaching next year will hire all the texans and falcons castoffs since they all have more wins than Anyone on our team.

First of all you want their starters not castoffs. Secondly Philly has demonstrated that some great individual players don't guarantee that you will play well as a team or win. But if Rivera is still here, how well he can mold the players in a cohesive unit that has good chemistry and plays well together will determine how long he stays here. If isn't who has the best individual players but who plays best as a team. A great team is when the overall success of the team is better than would be predicted based on the sum of the individual parts.

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I've lost a lot of poker hand where I had a better than 77% chance of winning...

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Honestly that doesn't mean anything. Those rankings are subjective and show nothing.

But the only statistic that matters is win-loss record. You can lead the league in scoring points but if you give up more than you score you end up with a poor record. You can have more yards than another team but if you have fewer points then it doesn matter.

So win- loss record at the end of the day is all that matters.

Depends on what you are looking at.....wins and losses are the end all be all to some questions. They aren't for others.

You can take 2 teams that are 1-15 and have them play. One will be favored.....one will be favored bc you don't actually judge a team on just record alone in terms of who has better odds to win a game

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Depends on what you are looking at.....wins and losses are the end all be all to some questions. They aren't for others.

You can take 2 teams that are 1-15 and have them play. One will be favored.....one will be favored bc you don't actually judge a team on just record alone in terms of who has better odds to win a game

If they are both 1-15, how could they play each other because the season would be over unless they also made the playoffs.

Just sayin.................

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No we are our record. We legitimately lost all those games. The only one I felt even a little robbed was against the Cowboys when we converted the 4th down and they gave the Cowboys a timeout. Then on the following play there was contact on Louis Murphy but no flag. Still we played and coached terrible for most of the season. You can't watch a blow out against an even worse team in week 15 and decide we were good all along.

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Honestly that doesn't mean anything. Those rankings are subjective and show nothing.

But the only statistic that matters is win-loss record. You can lead the league in scoring points but if you give up more than you score you end up with a poor record. You can have more yards than another team but if you have fewer points then it doesn matter.

So win- loss record at the end of the day is all that matters.

Did you not see the Objective vs Subjective rankings?

The Colts have the highest differential, they're overrated.

We have the most negative differential, we're being slept on.

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Actually we are not better than our record indicates. John Madden frequently says that you are what your record says you are. Now if you want to say that we have the potential to be better than our record, then that might be the case. Our offense has yet to show that they can come back and win a close game. Our defense has yet to show that we can create turnovers and shut down other teams in the 4th quarter like we did in the past. We are fine if we get a big lead but how are playing from behind???

The reasons above are why we are 5-9. Until we can show that we can finish games, we are a 5-9 team trying to improve to 7-9 which is still a losing record.

As you refuse the consider the arguments people put here let me give it to you in a simple way:

Denver is 11-3, now Manning and Von Miller get hurt in practice and placed on IR. With your, and Maddens, logic they are still just as good as they are still a 11-3 team.

The world is never black and white, regardless of what John Madden says.

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A teams record indicates how good a season a team has had, not how good that team is. There is a plethora of things that might cause a good team to lose to a lesser team.

If you only care about wins as a measure then you need to think about multiple season records to prevent the anomalies from having a major impact. Case example - who is the better team, the Detroit lions or the panthers? One was playoff bound last year but that season was essentially an anomaly compared to the surrounding years, the other had a worse record last year but currently has a better record this year.

Looking at Detroit, were they really one of the teams in the nfl last year? Or did they benefit from reasons outside of the teams ability? This season suggests last year was a fluke. Considering that bow can you reliably use a single seasons record as the measuring stick on how good a team actually is???

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Thread re-title: "How to convince yourself the Panthers are a playoff-caliber team at 5-9."

Here's my idea that will revolutionize the NFL: Tear down all the scoreboards across the country and after every game we'll let the fans cast their ballot for whichever team they think played better as they leave the stadium... not based on score, mind you, because we'll stop keeping score.

Apparently the score only determining the outcome of the game and therefore deciding who the better team was during a 4-hour stretch is no longer a valid indication of a good team. Please..... the Panthers are a below average team (which their record indicates) and they have been for the last 4 seasons... deal with it.

This post filled with complete and utter sarcasm only because it's too early in the morning to start digging my eyeballs out with a wooden spoon after reading some of this tripe.

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First of all you want their starters not castoffs. Secondly Philly has demonstrated that some great individual players don't guarantee that you will play well as a team or win. But if Rivera is still here, how well he can mold the players in a cohesive unit that has good chemistry and plays well together will determine how long he stays here. If isn't who has the best individual players but who plays best as a team. A great team is when the overall success of the team is better than would be predicted based on the sum of the individual parts.

Well said! We have a franchise qb so lets feed the fire is the only thing I would suggest.

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