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#16 PhillyB

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:35 PM

Not sure what you are asking.


maybe I am misinterpreting what you mean by "gun grab"

*goes to re-read bill*

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 08:38 PM

maybe I am misinterpreting what you mean by "gun grab"

*goes to re-read bill*


Ahh I was referring to the blanket bans on "scary looking guns" that this bill is working towards, also the ban of basically every Glock style pistol.

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 09:33 PM

"blah, blah, blah.
There has been talk from a lot of Dems for awhile about pistols with clips being included in bans. And yes, I read the article. Typical of the anti gun lobby and politicans..."


Yep, it's the "Dems"...
You do realize the biggest anti-gun lobby on Capitol Hill is the James Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, right? You do know who James Brady is, right? The Republican press secretary to Ronald Reagan who took a bullet to the head from John Hinckley, Jr's. assassination attempt on Reagan...

...the same anti-gun lobby who has repeatedly given President Obama an "F" for failing to ask for any anti-gun legislation during this first term....
...but you're right, it's those damn Dems everytime.

#19 YourMomsLover

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:08 PM

I could go through this forum and say " a country divided" and it would be correct.

#20 Bronn

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:25 PM

glad I got my Sig for Xmas...



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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:05 AM

It will never work.

The American population is armed for a reason, so that the people always have the final say on matters of government and the protection of their families within their domain.

The drug wars never stopped drugs, Prohibition never stopped alcohol, and a gun ban will only make things worse because only the law abiding citizens would turn them in, and the criminally minded would not, resulting in the criminals being the only armed people.

A kilo of cocaine or a pound of weed are both larger than a gun, and the government cant keep those items from coming across our borders... how could they possibly stop weapons smuggling of the same sort?

#22 mav1234

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:19 AM

oh ffs, there is absolutely no fuging chance that a "gun ban" is put in place.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:31 AM

It will never work.

The American population is armed for a reason, so that the people always have the final say on matters of government and the protection of their families within their domain.

The drug wars never stopped drugs, Prohibition never stopped alcohol, and a gun ban will only make things worse because only the law abiding citizens would turn them in, and the criminally minded would not, resulting in the criminals being the only armed people.

A kilo of cocaine or a pound of weed are both larger than a gun, and the government cant keep those items from coming across our borders... how could they possibly stop weapons smuggling of the same sort?


So what you are saying is that guns are just as addictive as alcohol and drugs and that a "war" will not work on them..

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:46 AM

So what you are saying is that guns are just as addictive as alcohol and drugs and that a "war" will not work on them..


It is not an addiction.

For most owners, it is about hunting and tradition. Then you have people who only own a firearm and keep it in their bedroom to keep their family safe.

No one is addicted to guns. That is rediculous.




I agree with you that one day, decades in the future, we will finally be able to put our weapons down and quit killing each other... but that time is in the future, and until that day, Americans have the right to own weapons to protect ourselves and family from criminal predators.

Our founders wanted us armed so that the government could never have complete control over the people ever again. We had to protect ourselves from the English crown in 1776, and a day may come in the future when we may have to protect ourselves from our own government.


If you look at history, the poeple that were able to disarm their citizens always followed up with millions of civilian deaths. Look what happened after the Nazis took away their people's rights. Look at what Stalin did to the USSR after he disarmed his people...

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:50 AM

You used drugs and alcohol as an example on why it would not work. Those are highly addictive substances. If you could show me a "War" that didn't involve highly addictive substances and failed as badly as those did perhaps then I could see how a "war" would not work when it involved guns.

Even though I am against banning ALL guns.

#26 FuzzyPanther

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:56 AM

You used drugs and alcohol as an example on why it would not work. Those are highly addictive substances. If you could show me a "War" that didn't involve highly addictive substances and failed as badly as those did perhaps then I could see how a "war" would not work when it involved guns.

Even though I am against banning ALL guns.


War on child porn?

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:57 AM

You used drugs and alcohol as an example on why it would not work. Those are highly addictive substances. If you could show me a "War" that didn't involve highly addictive substances and failed as badly as those did perhaps then I could see how a "war" would not work when it involved guns.

Even though I am against banning ALL guns.



OK, I see what you mean now.

I didnt mean to elate guns to addictive substances... I only meant to show that they will still be availible on the black market. It is capitalism... If you have enough money or know the right people, a firearm is always availible. Especially for criminals who already have connections on the market.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:59 AM

War on child porn?

I would say that is pretty addictive stuff to the sickos who enjoy it.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 12:55 PM




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