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Does this sloppy win help Rivera's chances?


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#16 Nicks To The Colts

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:08 PM

even the best teams are going to have shitty, sludgy games against awful teams that shouldn't be a problem. pulling a win out in a fugly, error-ridden, poorly officiated game like this one was important for us.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:08 PM

I have a feeling he'll be back.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:09 PM

I really think he's gone no matter what. It sucks because I think he's a pretty decent coach with an eye for talent, but I'm pretty sure that the new GM will want their own guy.


I'm not so sure.

Today for the first time I heard an offensive player say they love playing for him and hope he stays (Greg Olsen, specifically). I'd say the chances of him sticking are getting better.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:11 PM

Reminder the raiders have played other teams tough all year.

I never expected a blowout but I didn't expect a game this sloppy.


yeah they shut out a team last week which is hard to do no matter who you're playing in the NFL. their record tends to make people overlook them but their defense is nothing to take lightly and they've hung in there despite having been eliminated from playoff contention for what feels like forever and having dealt with a ton of injuries.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:16 PM

I think it helps.
Every team plays sloppy from time to time just look at the pats v/s jags this week.
Playing sloppy and still winning is all that matters

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:17 PM

I dunno about helping his chances, and I'd still prefer to bring in another coach with a higher ceiling, but Rivera deserves credit for a good call giving Gano a chance to seal the game for us.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

Holiday game for a team that is just playing for is coach going against a seemingly cupcake team. It's hard to get every player on that field ready to play for that. The OLine certainly looked like it was already home for the holidays..

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

Honestly though this team has a lack of *real* talent in a lot of areas.

OL, #2 WR, DB, DT

Rivera's coaching has been abysmal at some points, but it's hard to see any one doing really well with this team. We're also really young and we're starting to put it together.

A new, proven talent evaluator (if we get Ross, that is), and a young team starting to come together bodes well for next year. I'm indifferent about Rivera, he hasn't proven a lot, but the team loves him, and I dunno if a complete system change will help but whatever.

Chud needs to gtfo tho.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:20 PM

i'm more or less good with baby steps at this point

every little thing that helps build confidence is a step in the right direction.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:25 PM

That was ugly. Riviera is so lucky

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

That was ugly. Riviera is so lucky


There's a saying in the NFL "Better lucky than good."

And honestly? A month ago we would've lost this game.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:26 PM

A win is NOT a win in the normal sense when you have been out of the playoff hunt for weeks. Meaningless game

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:28 PM

A win is NOT a win in the normal sense when you have been out of the playoff hunt for weeks. Meaningless game


that's not surprising coming from you considering that if it was your choice we would have seen derek anderson for the entire second half.

look at the intensity level of both defenses in this game and tell me that the players don't think a win would be "a win in the normal sense"

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:31 PM

The Saints, a team with nothing to play for are battling the Cowboys tough in OT.
We'll get the Aints best game next week in New Orleans.
Should be a good test of where we are.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 04:34 PM

You are correct.

I guess you are thrilled that Cam played the whole game, same with Smitty and DWill. I would have put some guys in at WR, RB and yes at QB. Looking ahead to next season is all we have.

I suppose you feel on top of the world that a hapless Raiders led by Matt Leinart gave us a good game.

Don't get hurt celebrating.


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