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#1 Mr. Scot

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:44 PM

One thing I think ought to be remembered in the midst of discussing Newton's confrontation with Jerome Boger today...

While he shouldn't have touched him, I for one absolutely want my team's quarterback working the refs during games, especially close ones.

Make sure the refs know what the other side is up to. They're holding. They're offsides. They're cheap shotting. They're on the sidelines kicking puppies and talking about your mother.

(whether or not they're actually doing any of these things is irrelevant, of course)

Now understand, you won't be the only one. Over on the other sideline, the opposing team is telling the refs that all your players are Satan worshipping, cross-dressing neo-nazis. That's just how it goes.

The caveat here is that the refs are more likely to believe you if you're a winning team / coach / quarterback / whatever. Granted, that's not fair, but that's reality.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:45 PM

Good point, work the bastards...

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:48 PM

jake delhomme did this after every damn play.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:48 PM

One thing I think that's being lost in all the discussion about Cam's incident with the ref, he's didn't intentionally touch him. People all over the place are crying "if you intentionally touch a ref, you're ejected blahblahblah". He was either yelling at the ref, or in some theories, the Raider guy that kept driving into him after the ball was thrown. The fact that Cam brushed the ref was an obvious accident. He was emphatically making his point and made the briefest, faintest of contact possible. The ref's body wasn't even shifted by the touch. I think his shirt sleeve was slightly shifted...

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:49 PM

jake delhomme did this after every damn play.


And people reamed him for it.


One thing I think that's being lost in all the discussion about Cam's incident with the ref, he's didn't intentionally touch him. People all over the place are crying "if you intentionally touch a ref, you're ejected blahblahblah". He was either yelling at the ref, or in some theories, the Raider guy that kept driving him after the ball was thrown. The fact that Cam brushed the ref was an obvious accident. He was emphatically making his point and made the briefest, faintest of contact possible. The ref's body wasn't even shifted by the touch. I think his shirt sleeve was slightly shifted...


I think that's why he was flagged rather than ejected.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:50 PM

It doesn't matter, we won, no one will remember this game a week from now.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:51 PM

One thing I think that's being lost in all the discussion about Cam's incident with the ref, he's didn't intentionally touch him. People all over the place are crying "if you intentionally touch a ref, you're ejected blahblahblah". He was either yelling at the ref, or in some theories, the Raider guy that kept driving into him after the ball was thrown. The fact that Cam brushed the ref was an obvious accident. He was emphatically making his point and made the briefest, faintest of contact possible. The ref's body wasn't even shifted by the touch. I think his shirt sleeve was slightly shifted...

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:51 PM

It doesn't matter, we won, no one will remember this game a week from now.


Peter King and a legion of other haters will remember it. It will be filed away in an evidence folder for later use.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:52 PM

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Thanks for providing video evidence to prove my point.

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:54 PM

Peter King and a legion of other haters will remember it. It will be filed away in an evidence folder for later use.


A Super Bowl ring makes that stuff go away.

I know people generally think it sucks when they see the refs and the media bowing down and kissing the asses of Brady, Manning, Brees, Big Ben, etc. But folks should remember that if Newton gets a ring, he'll get the same "benefit of a doubt" that those guys do.

That..won't suck at all :)

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:01 PM

Thanks for providing video evidence to prove my point.


Can someone put some bone thugs on top of this please?

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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:01 PM

jake delhomme did this after every damn play.


he went into convulsions screaming for flags after every play. that's what i was thinking all day when this stuff went down.