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Where we pick in the draft scenarios is good or REALLY good

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The recent hits on Hankins are the same thing that gets said about just about every DT that comes out. He was borderline dominant in the beginning of the season, didn't maintain that level of play (though I read somewhere late he picked it back up) and now people say that's a result of lack of motivation or whatever. Couldn't possibly be that offenses saw what he was doing early and started compensating to defend against him. Couldn't be that almost no one maintains a level of dominance like that over the stretch of a whole season.

Who knows, maybe he really does have motivation issues, but any time I read that a DT has motivation issues because they didn't maintain an early surge I pretty much disregard it. DT is one of the toughest (if not THE toughest), most physical positions in football and very very few guys dominant from first whistle on opening day to final whistle on the season ender. As of now, before the combine and before the more detailed scouting videos come out on youtube (the best most of us have to go off of), Hankins is my guy if Star is gone.

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The recent hits on Hankins are the same thing that gets said about just about every DT that comes out. He was borderline dominant in the beginning of the season, didn't maintain that level of play (though I read somewhere late he picked it back up) and now people say that's a result of lack of motivation or whatever. Couldn't possibly be that offenses saw what he was doing early and started compensating to defend against him. Couldn't be that almost no one maintains a level of dominance like that over the stretch of a whole season.

Who knows, maybe he really does have motivation issues, but any time I read that a DT has motivation issues because they didn't maintain an early surge I pretty much disregard it. DT is one of the toughest (if not THE toughest), most physical positions in football and very very few guys dominant from first whistle on opening day to final whistle on the season ender. As of now, before the combine and before the more detailed scouting videos come out on youtube (the best most of us have to go off of), Hankins is my guy if Star is gone.

Why do we need DT in the first again? Don't we do this every year? It was Marcell Darreus in 2011, then it was Fletcher Cox last year, now were back with this year with a DT that won't help us whatsoever for the next 2 to 3 years anymore than Dwan and Ron edwards will. Look at Fletcher Cox's stats, Dwan Edwards has better stats than him if you don't count the weeks Dwan missed with injury.

Let's get an impact position in the draft, Offensive Tackle is something we need and its hard to miss and its instant impact. DT have the same bust rate as QB's, we don't need to waste a first round pick on a player than won't contribute in a major way for the next 2 to 3 years.

I say draft OT in the first, or my teammate from high school Jonathan Cooper (shameless namedrop) who is rated around where we will pick as an OG and keep Bell on the outside with Hangartner as depth. Then get a Safety in the 2nd. Finally get a WR in free agency and were good to go.

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As long as we get Sheldon Richardson I'm good.

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I'll take the CBS scouting department over a poor huddler any day of the week lol.

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From what I can gather, if we win next Sunday against NO, and the Bucs, Jets, Browns, Jags, Eagles, Dolphins, Chiefs, Raiders and Cardinals loose, we get the 10th overall pick.

But if we loose and the Bucs, Jets, Browns, Saints, Rams and Dolphins win, we get the 4th overall pick.

I realize something in-between will happen. I hope we can draft a DT, O-lineman or secondary personnel that can compliment Cam and Kuechly.

What say you Huddle? Finish the season with a flurry, save Chico's job and roll the dice in 2013 with a Rivera lead team that has a top 10 rookie coming in or change horses and see what we can do with a top 4 pick?

Is there that much difference between a 4th and 10th player selected? Kuechly went 9th, anybody want to switch him for Matt Kalil (sorry Ryan)?

Just win baby, 2013 will be the year.

Black cats and 13 go together.

No way we can pick as low as 4. Were likely out of the running for the top 10 win or lose against the saints.

http://www.gbnreport.com/weeklydraftorder.html

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Why do we need DT in the first again? Don't we do this every year? It was Marcell Darreus in 2011, then it was Fletcher Cox last year, now were back with this year with a DT that won't help us whatsoever for the next 2 to 3 years anymore than Dwan and Ron edwards will. Look at Fletcher Cox's stats, Dwan Edwards has better stats than him if you don't count the weeks Dwan missed with injury.

In my opinion, we need a DT precisely because we do this every year and have yet to address the position with a half decent prospect. Dareus was and is a stud and it would have been awesome to get him, he just happened to come out when we had the #1 and Cam was there so our choice was obvious. You don't take a DT when you need a QB, you have the #1 and there's someone like Cam there. I was never that big on Cox, I was a Brockers guy myself (stats don't really give the big picture on the sort of DT we need anyway). If what I expect to happen works out, any prospect will likely help us more than R. Edwards will. I don't expect him to be around next year. Even if he is, once again you answered your own question. If a DT takes 2 or 3 years to develop, we need to take one before we're stuck with relying on him to start and carry his own weight immediately. Same situation we're at with WR.

If OT is so plug-n-play, let's wait til we actually need one. Gross and Bell have been fine. Not elite, but certainly not our biggest need right now. Our OGs on the other hand have been pretty bad. That's why I'm open to spending such a high pick on Warmack if there aren't any good value DTs available.

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8 looks like the highest if you lose - provided TEN, ARI, and the other 6 win teams win. 15 looks like the low spot, if you win and PIT and MIA lost.

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15 is horrible spot for this team. If we can really get up to 4th that would be magical and the kind of player we could get would be awesome.

but 8 seems reasonable and I can live with that.

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Yeah, how are able to pick 4th again?

Philly 4-11

Detroit 4-11

Jacksonville 2-13

Oakland 4-11

KC - 2-13

And there are 4 teams at 5-10

Lowest pick we could get would be 6th or so, and that would take MAJOR help. Even if we lose, we're probably looking at around 8-10, like last year with a 6-10 record.

I don't see a LT being available when we pick, but that would be my hope. Grab our 3 most important positions (IMO) in 3 years (QB, MLB, LT) and build off of that. Like I said though, doubt LT is there, so just go BPA, preferably in the trenches either way.

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You completely left out if we win, Steelers lose we could possibly fall all the way to 16

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It's lose not loose Jesus H. Christ!

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As long as we get Sheldon Richardson I'm good.

yep. I like him better than Hankins.

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