Where we pick in the draft scenarios is good or REALLY good
Posted 24 December 2012 - 05:24 AM
Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:01 AM
From what I can gather, if we win next Sunday against NO, and the Bucs, Jets, Browns, Jags, Eagles, Dolphins, Chiefs, Raiders and Cardinals loose, we get the 10th overall pick.
But if we loose and the Bucs, Jets, Browns, Saints, Rams and Dolphins win, we get the 4th overall pick.
I realize something in-between will happen. I hope we can draft a DT, O-lineman or secondary personnel that can compliment Cam and Kuechly.
What say you Huddle? Finish the season with a flurry, save Chico's job and roll the dice in 2013 with a Rivera lead team that has a top 10 rookie coming in or change horses and see what we can do with a top 4 pick?
Is there that much difference between a 4th and 10th player selected? Kuechly went 9th, anybody want to switch him for Matt Kalil (sorry Ryan)?
Just win baby, 2013 will be the year.
Black cats and 13 go together.
No way we can pick as low as 4. Were likely out of the running for the top 10 win or lose against the saints.
Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:03 AM
Why do we need DT in the first again? Don't we do this every year? It was Marcell Darreus in 2011, then it was Fletcher Cox last year, now were back with this year with a DT that won't help us whatsoever for the next 2 to 3 years anymore than Dwan and Ron edwards will. Look at Fletcher Cox's stats, Dwan Edwards has better stats than him if you don't count the weeks Dwan missed with injury.
In my opinion, we need a DT precisely because we do this every year and have yet to address the position with a half decent prospect. Dareus was and is a stud and it would have been awesome to get him, he just happened to come out when we had the #1 and Cam was there so our choice was obvious. You don't take a DT when you need a QB, you have the #1 and there's someone like Cam there. I was never that big on Cox, I was a Brockers guy myself (stats don't really give the big picture on the sort of DT we need anyway). If what I expect to happen works out, any prospect will likely help us more than R. Edwards will. I don't expect him to be around next year. Even if he is, once again you answered your own question. If a DT takes 2 or 3 years to develop, we need to take one before we're stuck with relying on him to start and carry his own weight immediately. Same situation we're at with WR.
If OT is so plug-n-play, let's wait til we actually need one. Gross and Bell have been fine. Not elite, but certainly not our biggest need right now. Our OGs on the other hand have been pretty bad. That's why I'm open to spending such a high pick on Warmack if there aren't any good value DTs available.
Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:47 AM
Posted 24 December 2012 - 09:58 AM
but 8 seems reasonable and I can live with that.
Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:21 AM
KC - 2-13
And there are 4 teams at 5-10
Lowest pick we could get would be 6th or so, and that would take MAJOR help. Even if we lose, we're probably looking at around 8-10, like last year with a 6-10 record.
I don't see a LT being available when we pick, but that would be my hope. Grab our 3 most important positions (IMO) in 3 years (QB, MLB, LT) and build off of that. Like I said though, doubt LT is there, so just go BPA, preferably in the trenches either way.
Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:41 AM
Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:50 AM
yep. I like him better than Hankins.
As long as we get Sheldon Richardson I'm good.
Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:10 AM
Seeing our defense's progress tested against one of the best offenses is far more important in my eyes than the difference of a few draft positions.
Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:14 AM
Worry about the other stuff later.
I agree to the fullest. Win out. Get a better record than last year. At this height of the season, winning is the only thing that really matters.
Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:51 AM
This might be 100% pure speculation but I assume that anyone against Hankins must be a complete homesexual
Now now, it's possible that everyone has a difference of opinion and that everyone's opinion is valid
Although it is more than likely that these people are just blind haters consumed with their phallic obsession
Yeah you probably just hate Hankins cause you love the cack, just admit it
Don't lie, you've got a whole ghey buttsxe thing planned on for the whole evening and are just killing time on a message board until the first wave of "bros" stop by
Whatever you've got going on, it's cool. No judgement. I'm sure I've seen pictures of even worse across the internet. Well... maybe not.... but just don't show me what you've been doing. It's cool bro, just do that whole... uhh.. thing... you got going on... Anyway, vote Hankins for 2013.... unless you're into ghey gangrape buttshex
I have read the same issues with him from multiple scouting sites.
He is believed to be solid at the point if attack, but lacks the explosiveness to be disruptive. He struggles getting off the first block.
I have seen several sites that have him as luw as the 2nd Round.
DT is one of the most difficult to scout and gauge coming out if college....why so many highly drafted DT's never pan out.
Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:00 PM
Posted 24 December 2012 - 12:38 PM
At this point we have some pretty glaring holes on the offensive line, WR, DT, CB, S. For this reason, depending on where we pick, it all comes down to best player available at any of those positions. People would hate on Warmack at guard in the first but he is an elite blue chip prospect that would sure up our interior line and allow us to impose our will on opposing teams. Protecting our number one asset in Cam Newton should be a priority. We need to keep him healthy and upright if we want to compete week in and week out.
That being said, I think outside of the offensive line our secondary is the weakest group on this team. No one knows if Gamble will be back next season for certain. There are no great Safety prospects in this draft and a couple corners that could warrant a pick around 8-16.
Right now there is no telling which position we go. I think it all depends on where we select and who the best player is at a position of need at that time.
The draft will be exciting this year yet again.