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Cam Newton likely to be fined by NFL for bumping official

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Not always. I think he does his best in portraying the image Richardson wants him to, but every other week he takes a step back with something controversial. He's been a good soldier lately though and if they were really going after him, I don't blame him so much for the kick. Touching the ref was going too far though and there's no possible way you can tell me that wasn't aggressive. Even if he didn't touch him, and just came at him like that and said something he should be fined.

That wasn't the point though. The point is he can't possibly be expected to get the same treatment high profile veteran quarterbacks get when he hasn't done jack in this league. He also shouldn't be expected to get the same treatment as an elite receiver, when you are the face of the franchise. Especially when he rubs so many people off the wrong way.

I don't understand why this still needs to be explained 2 years in. Like I said, Cam Newton fans believe he should be entitled to the same treatment as guys who have earned it, without doing anything at all, which is both immature and delusional. There's a pecking order in the NFL like in any other league and he hasn't earned that respect yet. It's as simple as that. It's a fact of life.

You're so not telling the truth. No one is expecting Cam to get any special treatment but fair it fair. Every ish this young man does you folks try to use it as grounds to go in on him. No matter how small. No matter how obvious. No matter how wrong you are. Folks aren't stupid.

And no matter how well you make you're argument, you know darn well you're being disingenuous. It seems you folks are the ones who drag Cam into silly controversy just to feed your already judgemtal view of him.

What has Cam done? He sits with a towel on his head. You folks turn it into a controversy. He doesn't smile after team lose. You folks turn it into a controversy. He makes a statement in during a press conference. You folks spin it into a controversy. He defense himself on the field. You folks quickly attack him and turn it into a controversy. Why don't some of you folks simply admit it, You reason for always attacking Cam has very little with what you're claiming.

And by the way, how and who has Cam rubbed the wrong way in the organization?

And how come Luck, Matthew and all of the media darling QBs can get treated special, but Cam treated like a darn run away slave?

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It seems you folks are the ones who drag Cam into silly controversy just to feed your already judgemtal view of him.

What has Cam done. He sits with a towel on his head. You folks turn it into a controversy. He doesn't smile after a game. You folks turn it into a controversy. He makes a statement in during a press conference. You folks spin it into a controversy. He defense himself on the field. You folks quickly attack him and turn it into a controversy. Why don't some of you folks simply admit it, you believe every thing you read about Cam simply because the media say so.

You folks? Well then obviously what he's done is he was born black.

Look man, I don't think I need to say more than what I said. It's that. It's as simple as what I explained in that post. No other freaking rookie quarterback that came into this league, black, white or mixed is dealing with this because they're not acting like this, they're more mature, they stay out of the media, and they know their place and the kind of work it takes to achieve the status of the other quarterbacks in this league. It also doesn't help him that he had controversy coming out of college whereas these other guys did not. But whether it means respect, whether it means getting calls your way, whether it means getting a break in the press or from the refs. ...like Rivera says...it's a process. He hasn't done a good job of keeping his head low, his mouth shut, and going through it. He's been a peacock since the moment he came in, with a lot of criticism mixed in with the support of race activists.

But more importantly than all that, he's not leading this teams to wins. Do that, and a lot of those go away. Not all, but a lot of that. People shut up when you win.

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It's Christmas. Let me argue the entire day about Cam's maturity. PFFL!

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He should get fined for bumping the ref, no question.

And I'd even be okay with a fine for the kick as long as the Raider who pushed him out of bounds after he released the ball also gets one. Oh, and toss in one for the guy that took 3 steps after Cam had passed the ball and then drove him into the ground. And just for good measure, add one in for the Raider who hit Cam in the stomach with the crown of his helmet.

Fair is fair.

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The "touch a ref is an automatic fine" is pure BS. I see players in other games touch refs almost every week. It seems you can touch a ref as long as there is no aggression. From what I watch, they seem to let it slide unless it's disrespectful or malicious.

But the way Cam snapped in the direction of the ref, whether it was for Boger or not, it's hard not to flag/fine him. I have no problem with this. Just hope it teaches him a lesson. Suspension would be harsh though.

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The "touch a ref is an automatic fine" is pure BS. I see players in other games touch refs almost every week. It seems you can touch a ref as long as there is no aggression. From what I watch, they seem to let it slide unless it's disrespectful or malicious.

I don't ever recall a player or coach touching a ref and not being disciplined. Maybe you have a counterexample but I have always understood it to be an auto flag/fine.

"No Touchy"

http://profootballta...-will-be-fined/

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In 2009, receiver Brandon Stokley was ejected from a game and fined $25,000 for making unintended contact with an official while disputing a call. That same season, Raiders tight end Tony Stewart was fined $25,000 for the same infraction.

I'm guessing that is what Cam gets unless they add in the "kick"

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I don't ever recall a player or coach touching a ref and not being disciplined. Maybe you have a counterexample but I have always understood it to be an auto flag/fine.

"No Touchy"

http://profootballta...-will-be-fined/

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Now I know this wasn't an aggressive or malicious high five. But according to "the rule", Vince Young should have been flagged and fined. He was not.

Do you seriously not see a player walk up to a ref and put their hand on the lower back of an official while talking to them? I've seen this and no flag was thrown. I've seen coaches on the sideline do the same. It's not a malicious or disrespectful act, so I always assumed that's why they were never flagged. You see players walk into the arm of an official while he is gesturing a penalty. No flag. Even draws a chuckle from some refs.

Accidental, non-aggressive, etc. None of these are flagged. All I am saying is that the rule of automatic flag/fine for touching a ref is not as clear cut as some people make it out to be. To be clear, however, I am not condoning what Cam did. As I said, he should have been flagged for what he did.

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vince-young-high-five.jpg

Now I know this wasn't an aggressive or malicious high five. But according to "the rule", Vince Young should have been flagged and fined. He was not.

lol ok dude

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