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#76 Mr. Scot

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:10 PM

Could also just be Don Banks spouting unsubstantiated BS


Banks is generally a pretty good reporter.

No idea how valid this is, but Banks is someone I usually take seriously.

#77 jarhead

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:18 PM

Yeah it's rare.

Jimmy Johnson - before Jerruh decided he should be the acting GM and blew JJ out. How's that working for you Jerruh?
Mike Holmgren, but I think he also suffered burn out.
Bill Parcless in various scenarios.
Anybody else?



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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:24 PM

Banks is generally a pretty good reporter.

No idea how valid this is, but Banks is someone I usually take seriously.


I agree he is decent. It's just a very strong blanket statement to make even if there is some truth to it.

#79 unicar15

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:34 PM

Don't see any owner givin him that power with no NFL experience.

#80 CarolinaCoolin

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:46 PM

Harbaugh said the same thing and reached a deal in the middle that him and the gm would share the duty. If we make this happen with a young Marc Ross we'll be golden.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:54 PM

the anti chip talk reminds me a lot of the anti cam talk.

#82 carpanfan96

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:52 PM

Caplan tweeted about this article and said that he was hearing from a couple of NFL execs that the Banks article was spot on.


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2 execs said this piece is right on target: Black Monday Primer: Definitive guide to 2013 coaching carouselhttp://sportsillustr...coaches-2012/ …via @SINow



#83 CatMan72

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:58 PM

Well, if we want him to cook the meal maybe we should let him buy the groceries?

#84 Argus Plexus

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:55 PM

JR won't go for it.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:25 PM

so we actually have people on this board that don't have a problem with a college coach with ZERO nfl experience

coming to Carolina and becoming the GM, HC and OC........all in one?

mind numbing.

#86 carpanfan96

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:34 PM

so we actually have people on this board that don't have a problem with a college coach with ZERO nfl experience

coming to Carolina and becoming the GM, HC and OC........all in one?

mind numbing.




Yep, sometimes you have to take risks to get ahead. With the cap situation, the age/injury issues of some of the key kogs of the team.. Why not give it all over to a coach that knows exactly what he needs and what to look for to run his offense. The QB is already in place, the team just needs to be built up around him in a few areas.

#87 carp24000

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:42 PM

so we actually have people on this board that don't have a problem with a college coach with ZERO nfl experience

coming to Carolina and becoming the GM, HC and OC........all in one?

mind numbing.


What's the worst that can happen...another embarrassing losing season? We need a culture change here immediately.

#88 Marguide

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:43 PM

Yep, sometimes you have to take risks to get ahead. With the cap situation, the age/injury issues of some of the key kogs of the team.. Why not give it all over to a coach that knows exactly what he needs and what to look for to run his offense. The QB is already in place, the team just needs to be built up around him in a few areas.


The reason why not is it has often proved to be just too much for one person to handle. It is hard to do a good job with all that is involved in being a head coach and also do a good job having oversight of player selection.

That doesn't mean it can't be done. You need to have a scouting department with a good leader and give him almost complete autonomy until the post-season and run up to the draft. You need to have someone you trust to work the cap and handle player negotiations. You must know when to put on your GM cap and when to put on your HC cap, because those perspectives are different.

Most can't handle it, some can.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:43 PM

Yep, sometimes you have to take risks to get ahead. With the cap situation, the age/injury issues of some of the key kogs of the team.. Why not give it all over to a coach that knows exactly what he needs and what to look for to run his offense. The QB is already in place, the team just needs to be built up around him in a few areas.



does he have the skill set to pull all these jobs off at the same time?

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:58 PM

does he have the skill set to pull all these jobs off at the same time?




Don't know if he does or not, but lets say for example... Now this is just an example.


It would work similar to the setup right now in the Front office where there is a guy handling just the cap, a guy handling the scouting department and then the HC, Position coaches, Coordinators and so forth working together with the HC having the most say and the final say.


Lets say the team brings in Kelly as the coach, then promotes Beane to GM.


With Kelly here you might have a situation where there's the figure head GM (Beane) who runs the day to day football operations side and is the middle man between the HC and the departments.


Kelly tells Beane what he wants done during the season as far as recruiting and so forth and it gets handled by the department and the recruiters. If a signing needs to be done, Kelly makes a decision on what to do and checks with the Cap guy to see if it works.

Ect....



Basically how it's working right now with Beane and Rivera, with Rivera basically having final say over everything. Kelly would probably have a bit more power then Rivera does, but it would work similar I would think. Also If you don't believe Rivera basically does have final say on personal, check the Panther.com article from October about it.

In the end, Rivera is the tiebreaker in personnel matters, but it's a process that depends on the scouting directors or, as in the case of Hogue, the coordinators and possibly a position coach for input. Then there is the matter of making sure it all fits under the salary cap with Rogers.


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