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#46 Mr. Scot

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:22 PM

A little something for the people who think Brandon Beane is an actual candidate...

Beane has gone from handling budgets and overseeing the equipment, video and team operations to watching film with coach Ron Rivera, talking with teams about possible trades and making decisions that will shape the Panthers’ immediate future.


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You really think a guy who was doing that up until a few weeks ago has a shot of competing against some of the resumes listed here?

Throw in that Beane is only 36. That's three years younger than the youngest candidate, Marc Ross, but with far less experience in actual football management.

You can throw your "Richardson only wants a yes man" theories around all you want, but this ain't happenin.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:18 PM

Quick note on Steve Keim...

Mike Lombardi is reporting that Cardinals GM might be relieved of his duties, which would likely mean the job getting handed to Keim.

After what I saw and read researching him, I'd love for us to at least be able to take a look at him, but we might not get that opportunity.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:30 PM

A little something for the people who think Brandon Beane is an actual candidate...



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You really think a guy who was doing that up until a few weeks ago has a shot of competing against some of the resumes listed here?

Throw in that Beane is only 36. That's three years younger than the youngest candidate, Marc Ross, but with far less experience in actual football management.

You can throw your "Richardson only wants a yes man" theories around all you want, but this ain't happenin.


Marty Hurney was a beat-writer before he started working for the Redskins PR department, then he learned under the Chargers GM Bobby Beathard in the mid-90s, then started managing the cap for the Panthers before becoming GM. Hurney was actually the interim GM for awhile after Polian left, a few years before he actually became GM.

What's your point here? Beane has almost an identical amount of experience that Hurney did before becoming GM of the Panthers. Is that a good thing for the future of the team? No. Is he being considered for the job? Definitely. If he follows the same path as Hurney, Beane will be the GM in a few years after the Panthers crash a burn with their next hire. (kidding about that last part)

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

Marty Hurney was a beat-writer before he started working for the Redskins PR department, then he learned under the Chargers GM Bobby Beathard in the mid-90s, then started managing the cap for the Panthers before becoming GM. Hurney was actually the interim GM for awhile after Polian left, a few years before he actually became GM.

What's your point here? Beane has almost an identical amount of experience that Hurney did before becoming GM of the Panthers. Is that a good thing for the future of the team? No. Is he being considered for the job? Definitely. If he follows the same path as Hurney, Beane will be the GM in a few years after the Panthers crash a burn with their next hire. (kidding about that last part)


Like i said a while back, this discussion magnifies the prior error.

Hurney was fired for poor job performance. And his mentor in the GM world was actually one of the best GMs ever (Bobby Beathard), Beane's mentor was a guy who just got fired for poor performance on his first ever gig.

If Beane was the pupil, and the teacher was fired for being bad at his job, that doesn't speak well for his chances.

And please don't tell me you can look at the resumes' of these guys who have been scouting and evaluating for 15-20 years and take seriously the notion that a guy who up until a few weeks ago was overseeing the equipment and the video department and making travel arrangements is a serious candidate next to that :wacko:

You don't put a guy who's never even been a scout in charge of your entire personnel department.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:04 PM

It's a possibility. Though the question I'd ask is if you think he's too young, why interview him in the first place?


Very good question, but it happens all the time. I'm a little reluctant to let a 39 year old run the Panthers, but fortunately I don't get a vote.

I think young coaches can be good, but business experience can't replicated without actual business experience. Just my two cents.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:09 PM

Very good question, but it happens all the time. I'm a little reluctant to let a 39 year old run the Panthers, but fortunately I don't get a vote.

I think young coaches can be good, but business experience can't replicated without actual business experience. Just my two cents.


In fairness, DeCosta is only two years older.

Most of the other guys are in their late forties with the exception of Gettleman who's over 60.

I guess you have to look at "age" vs "experience".

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:55 PM

By the sounds of it DeCosta isn't going anywhere. Gettleman is too old.

Short list gets shorter.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:11 PM

Don't know if this was posted anywhere else, but Patty Y was at it again today with this gem on his weekly Friday chat.


JM (Charlotte ): Have you heard who is being considered in the panthers gm search?

Pat Yasinskas: Dave Gettleman is the one name I keep hearing. But I've also been told not to be surprised if they make interim GM Brandon Beane the permanent GM.


http://espn.go.com/b...c-south-chat-45

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:21 PM

Probably "told" by Beane's agent.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:24 PM

of all the possibilities I would only put the chances of it being Beane at 10%

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 09:51 PM

of all the possibilities I would only put the chances of it being Beane at 10%


I think you're being generous.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 11:46 PM

I think you're being generous.

maybe a little, but with Pete Y at least I would have to give it some merit more then 0 or 1% which I would otherwise, considering who the writer is I'd give it a solid 10% chance just on that.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:27 AM

Adam Caplan mentions Falcon Director of Player personnel David Caldwell as a name that's likely to get a lot of attention in GM circles. He doesn't specifically mention us, though.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:58 AM

Links to some GM related articles:

The Next General Managers (The Sideline View)
Black Monday Primer (Sports Illustrated)
For the Carolina Panthers, help wanted is everything (Charlotte Business Journal)

And here are the links to the Twitter discussion GabeKing had with Adam Caplan...

https://twitter.com/...557238051655682
https://twitter.com/...558292797480961
https://twitter.com/...561434956115969
https://twitter.com/...577035325902849

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

Thank you Mr. Scot, as always a very informative and well put together thread. You will have a bust in Huddle-Canton when all is said and done. Right next to Zod's Codpiece and across from Fiz's sense of self-entitlement.

Thank you again Mr. Scot for your research.


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