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[mwright350]

For whatever reason I usually end up listening to Mac attack or Busting loose. I think Frank Garcia in particular is pretty good.

I listen to the 3-7 show maybe once a month.

You're better off for it.

I don't mind most of the programming on FNZ but The Drive is a cesspool.

[Marguide]

For nosuchthingasapanther (quote not working on phone today)...

I don't live in a "panther box" as you suggest, and religiously follow all things NFL.

Jarhead's response may have hit closest to the mark in comparing coverage of The Golden Calf of Bristol and Newton. The Golden Calf of Bristol gets more airtime than Cam, but both have their every action magnified. The Golden Calf of Bristol is usually cast as the "good guy" from a character standpoint, and Cam is too often the villain.

We know the media is largely a mirror of society at large, so what does it tell us about our values and stereotypes that these guys are thrust into these roles? And no, I'm not going down the race baiting road as it goes beyond that. Nor does anyone want another 20 page thread discussing all the reasons things are the way they are.

But to pretend that Cam has been treated and portrayed like everyone else suggests a terminal case of head in the sand disease.

[thatlookseasy]

True and false.

Yes, other players face heat. Newton is unique. Name another player in the last decade that entered the NFL with the national attention Newton was recieving. Newton is under a different microscope than most 2nd year players and was last year.

The Golden Calf of Bristol last year got far more attention than Cam has ever received from the national media (a lot of it was positive, but there were plenty of people calling him out too). You just notice it more because you're a panthers fan

People just need to ignore it. The negative press will eventually stop once he starts winning some games and making the playoffs. The media loves a "troubled player turning himself around" story, just look at all the stuff we heard about Vick when he was coming back. He was a changed person, he studied the plays so well, he was such an improved QB. Doesnt matter if the story makes sense or not, as long as it fits the narrative

[jarhead]

At the risk of being too vague do you listen to WFNZ between 3 and 7?

I started listening to 730 because I got tired of listening to Marc and Zarzour spend entire segments of their show talking about every negative thing they could come up with about Cam. Maybe they changed their tune by now...I dunno because I haven't turned their show on in months...but for a while there it was bordering on obsessive.

Thats the only way they get people to listen is by creating a story out of nothing.Skip Bayless does the same thing on a national level.I just tune out all of those shows.

[Roger Dorn]

True and false.

Yes, other players face heat. Newton is unique. Name another player in the last decade that entered the NFL with the national attention Newton was recieving. Newton is under a different microscope than most 2nd year players and was last year.

The Golden Calf of Bristol

[jayflip]

Why Zob? Why Zob hate Cam?

[Originalman]

I'm not a blind homer Cam defender, but I've never seen an athlete as misunderstood and misrepresented as Cam is. A lot of that is perception, because we as fans of the Panthers, see the other side that the mainstream does not. But still, how can you watch that video of Cam mic'ed up at the Raiders and then call him a thug? He is very respectful to fans and refs, and he is very supportive of his teammates.
His personality is way closer to The Golden Calf of Bristol than the Jay Cutler meets Jamarcus Russel meets satan persona that the media has created for him.

Because stereotypes sell......that's why it's easy to label him a thug.

[jarhead]

Because stereotypes sell......that's why it's easy to label him a thug.

I have not heard him labeled as a thug since the draft.Parents do not line up for hours to get an autograph for their kids from a thug.

[King Taharqa]

Because stereotypes sell......that's why it's easy to label him a thug.

...or stupid

...or selfish

...or immature

[Originalman]

I do wish that he would do more interviews or show the public who he really is instead of hating all things media. I think it would go a long way towards letting people outside of those who follow the Panthers closely like us to see that he's a great guy and should be a fan favorite.

It doesn't matter once the media has their sights set on you.....you can bend and twist and do everything you can to please them and they will still dog you out. Mcnabb in Philly was always an open book to the Philly media and they still treated him like poo.

It does not matter to the media.

[footballisasport]

Yesterday, I stated that a lot of what's happening to Cam has to to with him being in the South. I was quickly accused of trying to stir up racism and was ridiculed. Guess what, my point had less to do with racism and more to do with what I've observed in the past two plus years.

It seems those who have Cam are forced to feel unhappy about having him because of the endless scrutinizing the negative images being created against him by the media and pushed by those who are still seething that he helped a much rival college team achieve a goal. It seems some of them set out to tarnish Cam because they see him as way to "perfect."

I see what I see, not because I'm anyone's "nuthugger" but because I'm quite observant. I see the same game that was played with Auburn students being played with you Panthers fans by outsiders and even by Panthers fans who seem to still have some ax to grind against Cam.

I really agree with this thread. I honestly wonder if it would have been better if the Bills had taken Cam instead of the Panthers. I don't believe the media's hate would have subsided but I believe folks wouldn't be so quick to entertain everything they read as much because a lot of them don't have any real dislike or prejudgement of Cam outside of the media. The whole Auburn vs. Bama stuff is mor a Southern and ESPN thing than up here in the Northeast.

In all honety, folks in the North are not so much into the Cam Newton hate as the folks are in the South and that's a fact. IMO, Cam still being part of that world where all the hate between Auburn and Bama exists. Which makes it easier to continue pushing every fictional story out there against him. Not so much because folks believe it, but because it will in some way, satisfy their egos towards him.

As you can Tell by The Golden Calf of Bristol, folks up North don't care what you did in college and how much of a star you were. They only care about what you're doing know. They are very quick to forgive and even quicker to forget. The fear-mongering and race baiting, wouldn't be still working so much in the North as it seems to be doing in the South and that's a fact.

[Mr. Scot]

The Golden Calf of Bristol gets more airtime than Cam, but both have their every action magnified.

The Golden Calf of Bristol is a New York Jet.

Newton is a Carolina Panther.

Who would you rightly expect to get more airtime on the national level?

[LA_Panther]

So I've worked a lot of bar/restaurant jobs in Atlanta through an entertainment company I used to work for, and I've met a poo ton of people in the bar/club industry. I've heard a lot of stories.

I know people that saw Ray Lewis kill that guy. I know Eugene Robinson was trying to pick up a tranny the night he grabbed a UC. I know the zifty guy that delivers Matt Ryan all his meals from the restaurant on the bottom floor of his luxury condo complex. I'm basically the guy from this Steely Dan song.

Cam Newton does not drink, at least not in public. He never stays anywhere past one. He's been dating the same girl for years. He's goofy as hell and is really only comfortable on a football field. He's smart, well spoken, and tips well.

whaaaaaaat...cmon man really?

[thatlookseasy]

The Golden Calf of Bristol is a New York Jet.

Newton is a Carolina Panther.

Who would you rightly expect to get more airtime on the national level?

The Golden Calf of Bristol was more talked about in Denver than NY.

Denver is a bigger media market than New York?

[Marguide]

For Mr. Scott...

I fully understand why NY athletes get more airtime than the locals, but that's not what I was addressing.

And the The Golden Calf of Bristol story sold well and got plenty of airtime long before he hit the big apple.

It's been a running joke on NFLN for 2 years that any mention of The Golden Calf of Bristol drives ratings higher.