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Cam Newton: Best First Two Seasons Ever


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#31 X-Clown

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:28 PM

Most of Jake's "clutch" plays involved a prime Steve Smith.


Don't sleep on Ricky Proehl and Moose too. Of course, Jake always did have John Kasay to kick the big one in all of our nailbiter wins...Cam has had the likes of Mare/Medlock/Gano.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

Don't sleep on Ricky Proehl and Moose too. Of course, Jake always did have John Kasay to kick the big one in all of our nailbiter wins...Cam has had the likes of Mare/Medlock/Gano.



This is quite possibly the most overlooked situation on the team. What an absolutely brilliant point! Jake would toss those wounded ducks to the heavens and when Smitty couldnt make a play, the Mighty mighty Kasay would step to the plate and crush it. Mare, Medlock, nor Gano can hold Kasay's jock.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

yeah, he has generated more offense than any player in NFL history of the course of his first two seasons....

if the media wasn't out to get him....they generally would be all over this type stuff. But Cam is unique, we don't want him to be loved...he plays better loved by those close to him and hated by the outside world.

If he won games the media would be all over him

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:59 PM

This is quite possibly the most overlooked situation on the team. What an absolutely brilliant point! Jake would toss those wounded ducks to the heavens and when Smitty couldnt make a play, the Mighty mighty Kasay would step to the plate and crush it. Mare, Medlock, nor Gano can hold Kasay's jock.



Didn't have to be this way. Kasay still wanted to play, our GM was just in constant full retard.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:12 PM

This is quite possibly the most overlooked situation on the team. What an absolutely brilliant point! Jake would toss those wounded ducks to the heavens and when Smitty couldnt make a play, the Mighty mighty Kasay would step to the plate and crush it. Mare, Medlock, nor Gano can hold Kasay's jock.


Having a clutch kicker helps win those close games. Think of how many big kicks Matt Prater made for Denver last year in close games (of course, most simpletons give that credit to The Golden Calf of Bristol). Adam Vinatieri is a major reason that both Brady and Peyton Manning have Super Bowl rings.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:18 PM

70 total tds, 23 ints, over 7k yards. I would probably argue Dan Marino over Cam, though I can see where both sides of the argument come from.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:30 PM

Yardage and total touchdowns is an amazing stat.

In terms of clutch you could argue that Cam has been the team that's up in the 4th quarter so his opportunities have been limited. If Cam had won those games he still would have the "clutch" questions.

Now the fumble against the Falcon and the awful pass in the Seahawks game are two instances where he was not clutch.

Fox ball always had the team barley down but so there was opportunity to close out the stinkers for the earlier three quarters.

Now in situations where he needed to make a drive he has yet to close on that signature drive...thanks Mare.

Like Dan Reeves in Denver, he spends three quarter trying to run the ball ineffectively and then when they are down two tds they give it to elway and go no huddle for the bail out win.

Cam needs a coach that will allow us to be down in the 4th plain and simple and
Rivera is always having the lead...get rid of him.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:37 PM

you may consider this a preemptive PFFL strike.


I actually thought this was your shot at TRD. lol

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 03:38 PM

Nice read

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

nice but need to get playoffs. now is that a coaching and gm problem.,,,,,we will find. other than that nice. even with all the others i still think cam has the most potential to not only become elite but truly a one of a kind player of his generation. :cool:

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:44 PM

honestly I have to give those first two seasons to Dan Marino... I don't think wins are solely on a QB but I don't think you can just ignore them completely, either. What Dan did in those first two seasons - given the nature of the league - wow.

I love Cam and I think what he has done is simply amazing, and I don't think it detracts from his accomplishments to say maybe he's second best.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:05 PM

I would take 2003-07 Jake over rookie and soph Cam in the 4th Q. Call him lucky, but he got in done. So will Cam with time, but we are in the playoffs thia year with Jake.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:07 PM

This is quite possibly the most overlooked situation on the team. What an absolutely brilliant point! Jake would toss those wounded ducks to the heavens and when Smitty couldnt make a play, the Mighty mighty Kasay would step to the plate and crush it. Mare, Medlock, nor Gano can hold Kasay's jock.


Matt Moore and Clausen had Kasey...and Smitty..

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:10 PM

I would take 2003-07 Jake over rookie and soph Cam in the 4th Q. Call him lucky, but he got in done. So will Cam with time, but we are in the playoffs thia year with Jake.


Have to disagree. With no running game and an o-line playing like crap? We would have been seeing a lot of bad Jake. Like maybe 25 interceptions and a half dozen sack/fumbles is what I would envision.

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:16 PM

I would take 2003-07 Jake over rookie and soph Cam in the 4th Q. Call him lucky, but he got in done. So will Cam with time, but we are in the playoffs thia year with Jake.


clutch play also has a lot to do with being put in great position to be clutch and help...

A lot of games Cam winning opportunities have been pooty scenarios.

Plus Delhomme couldn't even get to the 4th this year with as much on his shoulders as Cam has


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