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I thought this little story was relevant to some of the stuff we've discussed in here over the last few months...


Went to my family's Christmas part over the holidays... long story short, it almost turned into a church service with all the talking about how god has done this and done that... and then my uncle gets up and proceeds to tell us how we need to pray for our country, how Obama is destroying it, etc., etc.

A little about my uncle... he's retired from the military with over 25 years service and full benefits, and also retired from a local gov't job where he worked after his military service, also with full benefits... needless to say, he's pretty well off. Paid off house, new truck every year, etc.

So afterwards we're talking and he's telling us this story of how he went to the VA about his benefits and how the guy at the VA awarded him all these "new" benefits because of his various "health problems" (which are marginal at best), and told us that he qualified for an additional $1200/mo in benefits.

I just found it interesting that the same person who was just railing about how Obama was destroying our country is essentially "on the take" for benefits he doesn't really need, but doesn't seem to see the problem with it.

I find this to be a growing problem. I guess it's the "I may as well get my share too" attitude...

I was personally very put off by his attitude, and frankly had always thought better of him as a person.

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i see all kinds of hypocrisy like that from both sides
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[quote name='Porn Shop Clerk' timestamp='1356716333' post='2064677']
i see all kinds of hypocrisy like that from both sides
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Yep. The two party system is controlled by the Council on Foreign Relations. Both the Democrats and the Republicans only have slight differences, but the long term plans and the foreign policy is both the same. It is only a war of words.


This reason is why a third party has such a hard time winning elections. It is a rigged game, and if you do not have a 'D' or an 'R' behind your name, you will not be an insider as to the real game being played, and the financing and other political tools, such as the media, that is needed to win an election.

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Sucks about your uncle. I agree with PSC there is plenty of hyprocisy on either side of any issue. One day my parents (who are [supposedly] devout Christians and go to church regularly) joked to me about what would be worse: me being gay or marrying a black girl. It really pissed me off that day. Even as an adult who already disagreed fundamentally with them on many issues, it really changed the way I look at them. Guy in my office too, goes to church all the time and is a professed Christian but never hesitates to throw out racial epithets when someone pisses him off. I just shake my head.

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[quote name='catfang' timestamp='1356717084' post='2064689']
Sucks about your uncle. I agree with PSC there is plenty of hyprocisy on either side of any issue. One day my parents (who are [supposedly] devout Christians and go to church regularly) joked to me about what would be worse: me being gay or marrying a black girl. It really pissed me off that day. Even as an adult who already disagreed fundamentally with them on many issues, it really changed the way I look at them. Guy in my office too, goes to church all the time and is a professed Christian but never hesitates to throw out racial epithets when someone pisses him off. I just shake my head.
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Unfortunately the majority of my family is the same. Profess to be christian, but wouldn't have a black or gay person in their homes. It's sad and pathetic.

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Cute little anecdotal story you have there, but unless you can post some charts and graphs, and maybe a quote or two from a peer reviewed article, with links to the original source material, I'm afraid I can't be expected to take this all that seriously.
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It's amazing how many people live in a bubble. My in-laws are very religious and strict straight ticket pubs. It's impossible to even have a somewhat sane discussion. Best to just keep your mouth shut.

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[quote name='nc_biscuit' timestamp='1356717249' post='2064698']
Unfortunately the majority of my family is the same. Profess to be christian, but wouldn't have a black or gay person in their homes. It's sad and pathetic.
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Yes, it is, and I am constantly amazed on how some "Christians" can overlook that "love thy neighbor" thing. It was kind of a big deal to Jesus.

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[quote name='MCP' timestamp='1356717414' post='2064703']
Cute little anecdotal story you have there, but unless you can post some charts and graphs, and maybe a quote or two from a peer reviewed article, with links to the original source material, I'm afraid I can't be expected to take this all that seriously.
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Watch it buddy. You need to get back to sleeping or whatever it is you're doing this week.

...but hey, at least you didn't call me fat.

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[quote name='nc_biscuit' timestamp='1356717697' post='2064711']
Watch it buddy. You need to get back to sleeping or whatever it is you're doing this week.

...but hey, at least you didn't call me fat.
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:P

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the stuff i see working directly with freddie mac and fannie mae is staggering. its just an odd culture with those guys on how money is spent and who gets what.
it's like Willy Wonka meets Wall Street.
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I had a similar experience over the holidays. I went to my soon to be in-laws home which is in bumfuq east TX. Anyhow, it was sort of opposite because some people in the small town would intentionally try to get disability benefits so they wouldnt have to do poo for the rest of their lives. However, if you even mention Obama, they get pissed and start yelling stuff like "he's a communist muslim democrat...take our guns etc". They vote republican even though it makes more sense for them to vote democrat.


Backwards ass country mfers

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I had a similar experience albeit with democrats happen to me over the holidays. Went to visit an old friend that I use to party with back when I was into that stuff. He drinks to much and is not doing well. His daughter was there, and she is very much into politics and I made the mistake of getting into a political conversation. When she found out I voted for Romney, she attacked me, and republicans in general.

I listened to her rant about how republicans treat poor people and want to cut social spending for a little while, and then I had to respond. I told her that she of all people should understand why there is a backlash by some against social spending. Her dad is on disability primarily because he stays drunk all the time. Her brother was on unemployment for 2.5 years and intentionally tried to avoid getting a job during the entire time. Once it finally ran out, he got arrested for breaking into someone's house. Her aunt is on section 8 and stays drunk and high most of the time. I do believe the government should help less fortunate, but I couldn't believe she had the nerve to criticise my politics when I have contributed more to the tax base than her entire family combined.

NCBiscuit, at least your uncle, paranoid though he may be, did contribute something. To many contibute nothing, and expect something in return.

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It definitely goes both ways. People are so me-me-me now it's ridiculous.

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We have become a sad nation of takers, whiners, finger pointers, etc.

This country needs to grow some balls again.

But, this happens to every nation. We are still very young, but this dream will fail.

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Speaking of both sides on the take. This should do nothing to bolster peoples confidence in our gov, especially while both squaking about fiscal cliff.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-orders-raise-biden-members-congress-federal-workers_692223.html

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the closest thing to reagan's mythical welfare queen is the US military

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[quote name='Porn Shop Clerk' timestamp='1356716333' post='2064677']
i see all kinds of hypocrisy like that from both sides
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Yeah it's a two way street.

My GF's Mother always bitches and makes it pretty obvious how she hates all these "ghetto" people who sit on their ass and don't work..how her taxes pay for them to live. LOL she doesn't work. Hasn't in a while. My GF's dad is loaded.

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[quote name='MrTouchdown' timestamp='1356730900' post='2064950']


Yeah it's a two way street.

My GF's Mother always bitches and makes it pretty obvious how she hates all these "ghetto" people who sit on their ass and don't work..how her taxes pay for them to live. LOL she doesn't work. Hasn't in a while. My GF's dad is loaded.
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As long as the government is not keeping her up, then let her sit on her ass all she wants

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Yeah thats the boot straps mentality!

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[quote name='gospodin shuttlesworth' timestamp='1356729855' post='2064928']
the closest thing to reagan's mythical welfare queen is the US military
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Both are there, and both need reform.

Nothing mythical about folks abusing the system, and the military abusing the system.

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why don't poor people just live off their rich parents?

lazy pos

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This may be a shock to some people: There are people who get govt assistance because they actually need it to assist them through a transistion. They are educated and have worked and intend to work.

The fact that these programs have been painted as "the majority of participants are scamming the govt so they can get high and watch Montell Williams commercials" is terribly wrong. In a time of high unemployment and displaced workers...there is a need for social programs to assist with the transistion to another job.

They keep families afloat while they are interviewing for new jobs with high priced COBRA benefits that cost more than unemployment pays..

Now are there peeps who abuse the programs?.yes..improved oversight needs to exist but they are the exception IMO.


A co worker of mine is battling cancer and went on a huge anti-Obama socialized healthcare is garbage rant...then praised, 5 minutes later, his Tri-Care for taking care of his expensive treatment and meds..

So a person with no healthcare working at a low paying job gets cancer they have to pay out of pocket for all meds and treatments pretty much..sounds fair.

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moral of the story: surprise! people who receive - and exploit - government help don't follow only a single party.

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[quote name='Sheikh Zula' timestamp='1356741437' post='2065127']
why don't poor people just live off their rich parents?

lazy pos
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poor people have such a sense of entitlement

also the estate tax is totally unfair i deserve every penny my daddy made on the back of the working class

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