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Mr. Scot

Media, Fans and Newton

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You are misunderstanding me.

I realized that. I saw where you were coming from and changed my thought complete.

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FYI, No one has to tell grown men that the word "thug" is now meant as a not so subtle way of describing minorities, especially black men.

I don't believe this to be the case. I haven't ever seen Deangelo or Stewart called thugs. I haven't seen Thomas Davis or Charles Johnson called thugs. Are they minorities? I have seen Jeremy Shockey called a thug. Is he a minority?

I've seen Steve Smith called a thug, but he has attacked his own team mates on more than one occasion in his career. Could have something to do with it.

Saying the word thug is just another derogatory word used to describe all minorities isn't accurate. Its probably used more to describe anyone who is perceived to be a trouble maker or someone that embraces the materialistic me first nonsense that plagues the air waves today,

People who like to be offended and look for a reason to be constantly probably see the word thug as a good opportunity.

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Speaking of the media, fans, and Cam, It's hard not to question the mindset and motives of some fans on this site when they claim they don't hate Cam nor have any personal baises towards him. I couldn't help but notice the irony of one of the Admins for this site making light of the media's pay-for-play scandal against Cam by having a gif in a post where he's calling Cam a "thug" by associating him with people of Atlanta in another thread about the media's constantly creating false stories against Cam.The gif has Cam getting into a Cab with his Auburn coach and a couple of the Tiger players and there is money being passed around. He posted, in his defense, not to be intentionally attacking Cam racially when a fellow poster called him out on his post. He continued to make the argument that the "thug" label isn't racist and the fact that him calling Cam a "thug" shouldn't insinuate that he feels he's one. He is posting all that in a thread about false media stories with a gif from the biggest false story that started it all against Cam. If that isn't irony at it's best and extreme passive aggressive behavior, I don't know what it.

The list of passive-aggressive Cam "fans" and "supporters" on this site is legion.

They can usually be found by noting the form of phrases such as:

"Cam is my QB, BUT... "

"I support Cam 100%, BUT... "

"Cam sure has been doing great, BUT... "

The "BUT" being followed by one of the standard Cam-hate media tropes.

A typical example was from the last game. Many stood up and pledged their troth to their beloved Cam (standard passive), but then insisted that, gosh, he sure was being an inaccurate passer against Oakland and if he'd only work on his passing accuracy they'd love him EVEN MORE.

Now Cam being an "inaccurate" passer is a standard media-hate trope pointed at Cam time and again.

By the way, Cam was so "inaccurate" against Oakland he completed 62% of his passes.

That didn't stop the P-A specialists from getting their shots in though.

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And how is that different from every other QB we have ever had, exactly?

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And how is that different from every other QB we have ever had, exactly?

We didnt have to grow to like them. And we didnt encourage people to constantly attack their character.

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We didnt have to grow to like them. And we didnt encourage people to constantly attack their character.

So you don't remember people attacking Matt Moore's "couldn't care less" attitude or Jimmy's god awful spoiled sissy boy persona?

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So you don't remember people attacking Matt Moore's "couldn't care less" attitude or Jimmy's god awful spoiled sissy boy persona?

It's really easy to ignore something if it doesn't fit your personal narrative.

Convenient selective memories some of us have.

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So you don't remember people attacking Matt Moore's "couldn't care less" attitude or Jimmy's god awful spoiled sissy boy persona?

I dont remember you fighting hard for people's right to tear up Matt Moore and Jimmy Clausen's attitudes, no. You yourself used to defend Matt ALOT. I dont remember those guys ever playing as well for us as Cam is either, or even drawing the kind of attention we're getting. If the guy wasn't playing well the character attacks would be more understandable.

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Media

The infatuation this board has with media sours my stomach. Why they are even a topic of discussion is insulting. Intelligent people do not take media personalities seriously. Ever. Good, bad or indifferent (the content they spew) the people that make up the media are disingenuous at their very best. They serve no other purpose than to sell the ads that insulate the contracts that fatten the pockets of the owners, players, and unions. The money is what has made the game as weak as it has become. If you are dependent on the media being friendly, I cannot find any respect for you intellectually.

Fans

There are dumb-as-sh|t fans everywhere. We have some real winners among us for sure but I don't think we are worse for wear because of it. If we did not have all the dumbasses we have on this board or out in the public who would we have to make fun of after all. I love fans. Fans of all teams. Especially the weak minded of them. I remember the other week when I actually went out to the pub to watch our game against Atlanta and the place was packed. After our game I noticed some loud as hell bux people watching their game. The Eagles (yeh the Eagles) were giving them all they could handle and when some game-sealing play for Philly occurred I rudely laughed very loud as if to say... damn you guys suck. These two clowns got pissed at me (which is what I was hoping for) but what happened next is what I am getting at. One goof angrily pointed at me and the slapped his pal and said "he doesnt even have any gear on... where's your gear? You're not wearing any GEAR!!!!"

What the f-ck? Gear?? LMAO. Fans are the best.

Newton

Cam has taken some lumps this year. Unfortunately for him it kind of matters a little bit what the parrots say because he has to play the game and interact with these idiots. Its part of the gig and he is handsomely rewarded for his efforts so I don't feels too sorry for him. I think he knows it is a game and I think the roastings he takes are likely because he lets the majority of these hacks know in one way or another that he is only speaking to them because he "has" to. That said he was limited somewhat early in this year away from playing his game because some overzealous coaches thought they were really smart. They may be smart but they sure were not in this case. Turns out what we found out is that he needs to be able to play his game and let his ability win games. He is good enough. We don't need to reinvent the wheel and make him into the perfect weapon. He is good enough without having to employ the double secret, super sneaky, ultra awesome game plan and playbook. That lesson was a hard one to learn and through it all (and in hindsight) I have to give Cam credit for remaining as tactful and as committed to the leadership as he did in spite of what I can now understand must have been an excruciatingly difficult position of helplessness.

Nutshell?

We have what we want although it was hard to see at times.

We all take it a little too seriously.

We sure as hell should not need some four-letter or local hack to tell us so.

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So you don't remember people attacking Matt Moore's "couldn't care less" attitude or Jimmy's god awful spoiled sissy boy persona?

Delhomme was pretty well savaged here, even after good games.

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I dont remember you fighting hard for people's right to tear up Matt Moore and Jimmy Clausen's attitudes, no. You yourself used to defend Matt ALOT. I dont remember those guys ever playing as well for us as Cam is either, or even drawing the kind of attention we're getting. If the guy wasn't playing well the character attacks would be more understandable.

I criticized Cam early in the year for paying poorly and acting poorly.

He has fixed that over the past 5 or 6 games and I am glad he has.

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I criticized Cam early in the year for paying poorly and acting poorly.

He has fixed that over the past 5 or 6 games and I am glad he has.

Me too. Only thing I want to see now is more consistency, but the type of QB he is doesn't necessarily lend to that.

Gunslinger QBs are just about always streaky, You just have to hope for them to maximize the good streaks and minimize the bad ones (essentially what Favre did at his best).

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