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#21 Swan

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

I don't think they have "anything" at all. What did he earn in the last four games? Wins over below average teams, barring Atlanta? That is what happened a year ago, and not much has changed except the effectiveness of the offense (which has regressed). I will boast Rivera's defensive intellect, but by the time the defense clicked, it was already too late.

I won't be particularly angry if Rivera stayed. I am willing to give the guy one more season, but I just have this knack that once again, I, as well as the the rest of Panther Nation, will be disappointed yet again.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

If they are going to leave it up to the GM, then they better sign them quickly. Otherwise the top coaching candidates will be gone.


Well, they do have a head start.

And the guys some media think the team has the most interest in (Ross and Gettleman) can interview immediately.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:38 PM

ehh I don't know about that. Panthers.com has had articles over the years about players just as they were cut... admittedly that is more in training camp, but yeah.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:40 PM

ehh I don't know about that. Panthers.com has had articles over the years about players just as they were cut... admittedly that is more in training camp, but yeah.


Yeah. Can't go by training camp.

Remember a couple years back I looked at the team page articles and said on here "I think Delhomme might be benched" based on what I read. He actually wound up being cut.

This reminds me of that.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:41 PM

That reminds me...

Giants DC Perry Fewell blames his players

Not a good idea.

For whatever else you think of him, Rivera is by all accounts a guy who accepts blame and deflects credit.


Obviously everyone should know you don't do that, but behind closed doors; the players and coaches know that the game comes down to who plays better.

Even CJ said it, some guys on the team work harder than others. Some guys just didn't want it earlier in the season.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:41 PM

The players are stupid. There were players that loved Fox and Hurney as well. Their job is to play...for ANY coach that is hired.

I'll say it again and it has been said time and time again by myself and others...Ron Rivera won ONE big game in two years and won ZERO games in a sound fashion. Every win he's ever had has been in doubt to the very end. He was lucky the team got up for the Atlanta game. I PROMISE you that if he is back next year we will not be better than 8-8 and out of the playoffs yet again because of his piss poor decision-making and his lack of ability to control our talented (but also young) superstar.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:42 PM

Why would you 'fluff' a coach you're planning to fire?


lol but seriously though when have they ever written something objective

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:42 PM

Obviously everyone should know you don't do that...


Apparently not everyone :lol:

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:42 PM

Better answer is Hurney poorly constructed this team to sustain injuries (and in general).


True, he overpaid guys that ended up getting hurt. Luckily we found guys that replaced them and did a pretty good job at that.

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Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:43 PM

Rivera isn't the reason at all. You can point to plays this year that could have changed the outcome of the game. When you can point out specific plays, you know that it's execution not the coaching staff. I don't understand how people can blatantly ignore that fact.

It would be one thing if you could point out a whole game (excluding the Giants and Broncos game) where the Panthers played piss poor. The difference now is that the team is making plays down the stretch (ex: AE's punt return today).



If not for Rivera going conservative, we could have eeked out a few more wins. You and I both know this. What's funny is that one year ago, Rivera did much of the same. He went conservative while the Panthers held leads during late games, and eventually, it costed us. A few times.

If Rivera changed, or simply altered his late-game plans/playcalling slightly, many of us fans wouldn't be as disappointed. However, seeing loss after loss, week after week due to the same poor, late-game management disappoints fans.


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