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North Carolina survey...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2134200/Restaurant-racism-revealed-40-waiters-admit-discriminate-black-customers-dont-tip-well.html#ixzz1sxynu7M5
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Most people would like to believe that racial discrimination is becoming increasingly rare and unacceptable in mainstream society.

But a new study suggests that African-Americans still face subtle prejudice in at least one area of life - dining out.

A survey of waiters in North Carolina revealed that nearly two-fifths admitted to treating customers differently depending on their race.

And as many as 90 per cent said they had participated in or overheard racially charged conversations among their co-workers.[/quote]

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hmm let me pull out my handy list of canned responses:

one time i ordered a pizza and it arrived 15 minutes late and the delivery driver was black so racism goes BOTH ways

i was once a waiter and i never discriminated so i question the results of this study

i don't blame them for altering their service depending upon their expectation of a tip. hey it's not racism it's just something called COMMON SENSE maybe you should try it sometime liberal
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[quote name='gospodin shuttlesworth' timestamp='1356928150' post='2069313']
hmm let me pull out my handy list of canned responses:

one time i ordered a pizza and it arrived 15 minutes late and the delivery driver was black so racism goes BOTH ways

i was once a waiter and i never discriminated so i question the results of this study

i don't blame them for altering their service depending upon their expectation of a tip. hey it's not racism it's just something called COMMON SENSE maybe you should try it sometime liberal
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from the comment section of the Daily Fail:

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[quote name='gospodin shuttlesworth' timestamp='1356928150' post='2069313']
hmm let me pull out my handy list of canned responses:

one time i ordered a pizza and it arrived 15 minutes late and the delivery driver was black so racism goes BOTH ways

i was once a waiter and i never discriminated so i question the results of this study

i don't blame them for altering their service depending upon their expectation of a tip. hey it's not racism it's just something called COMMON SENSE maybe you should try it sometime liberal
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Being proactive. I dig it.

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[quote]The waiters didn't make the Black's reputation the Blacks did.Another group waitesses dislike is church[White and Black] groups and for the same reason. They both tend to be demanding and poor tippers.There's nothing racists about it. [b]It's just business and no one has any right to criticize them as resturants don't have to pay even minimum wage so their income depends on tips.In fact, the IRS figures their tips to be 8% of the bills they write so if you don't tip at least 8% it costs them money to wait on you.So what would you do in their position?[/b][/quote]

hmmm...should i organize and demand a living wage from my employer OR scapegoat an entire race?

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heh, love those comments. "This isn't racism, black people just don't tip well!"

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Where's sylvianlight? He will straighten this out.

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[quote name='CatofWar' timestamp='1356928720' post='2069351']
Where's sylvianlight? He will straighten this out.
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he's busy in the comments section of the article

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who knew Peter North was such a bigot even after all those interracial scenes
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So waitstaff treat blacks differently because of past experience, when they don't get tipped well they see this as conformation of past experience, never occurs to them that treating blacks differently effects tip...

K.
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that's an awesome one... heh

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middle-class african-american businessmen routinely tip 15-25% at my bar

kid rock concert comes to town, white boy trailer rats tip me 0-5%

it's almost like it has more to do with socio-economic brackets or something
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My wife has been a bartender and waitress. She told me that the black waitresses try to avoid being seated black customers because of this so what do you call that? Is that racism?
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[quote name='TbTeRRoR' timestamp='1356932461' post='2069451']
My wife has been a bartender and waitress. She told me that the black waitresses try to avoid being seated black customers because of this so what do you call that? Is that racism?
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yes, discrimination based on one's skin color is indeed the definition of racism
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[quote name='TbTeRRoR' timestamp='1356932461' post='2069451']
My wife has been a bartender and waitress. She told me that the black waitresses try to avoid being seated black customers because of this so what do you call that? Is that racism?
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what the fug do [i]you[/i] call that? what do you call the mindset of the people in the survey?

ah fug it don't bother.

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[quote name='Sheikh Zula' timestamp='1356934097' post='2069497']
what the fug do [i]you[/i] call that? what do you call the mindset of the people in the survey?

ah fug it don't bother.
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if i'm not mistaken this is the same guy that blamed the newtown shooting on omniscient/omnipresent god rendered helpless by being banned from schools and on working mothers, so there's very few responses he'd make that'd surprise me to be honest
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Haha if you, as a waiter, treat people you've never met before differently because of their race, then you're an idiot who is willingly losing money.

Also prejudiced, but mainly stupid

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[quote name='PhillyB' timestamp='1356934356' post='2069505']


if i'm not mistaken this is the same guy that blamed the newtown shooting on omniscient/omnipresent god rendered helpless by being banned from schools and on working mothers, so there's very few responses he'd make that'd surprise me to be honest
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I know. Occasionally he posts in this type of thread. Truly mind-numbing.

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[quote name='PhillyB' timestamp='1356933550' post='2069486']

yes, discrimination based on one's skin color is indeed the definition of racism
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So its black people racist against black people?

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[quote name='TbTeRRoR' timestamp='1356959868' post='2069669']
So its black people racist against black people?
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So this makes it A-OKAY right man?!?!?

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When I worked in a restaurant back when I was a teenager, black people from the local churches would fill the place up starting about 1pm on Sunday. It was a cafeteria, so tips were not a concern. But I did notice we used about twice as much grape and orange soda as we did on other days. So I came to the conclusion that black people like grape and orange soda more than white people do.

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I remember at a restaurant during furniture market, the waitresses would fight over the Japanese groups who came in. Evidently, they tipped very well. Better than the rest of us anyway

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but but but thats racist! stats just cannot count against a race or it is racism!

I believe a race should not be defined by stats, but you know the correlation is there. I know and anyone with sense knows that its not true for everyone of that race.
However for some reason its ok to take some off the wall christians nutz and let them define the rest of christianity, but you get anywhere near that with a race of people and its racism. It is all hate all the time. I am a christian and despite all the heat we get I'd help you if I could even if you've been spiteful to my beliefs just'cause that's what we do.

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Are these stats or anecdotes?

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[quote name='TbTeRRoR' timestamp='1356959868' post='2069669']
So its black people racist against black people?
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uh... yes? why is this so difficult for you to comprehend?

or are you trying desperately to point out that some black people are prejudiced too and therefore making excuses for, oh, i don't know, [i]someone [/i]you know being vocally prejudiced against black people in restaurants?

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