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#241 GOOGLE RON PAUL

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:37 PM

you're guaranteed minimum... but you almost always make more than that... my confusion was your catagorization of "minimum wage" as a tax bracket. You're taxed on income just like everyone else... most people who work for tips don't claim cash tips as income... therefor they are not taxed on that money, additionally, because it looks like they make so little on the books, they exist in a lower tax bracket than they often would otherwise... One of the reasons that tip jobs CAN be very good.


not sure how this is any different than any other tax avoidance scheme and worthy of being brought up in this topic other than to mischaracterize service jobs as "deceptively good jobs"

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:44 PM

not sure how this is any different than any other tax avoidance scheme and worthy of being brought up in this topic other than to mischaracterize service jobs as "deceptively good jobs"


you asked for correction. I gave it to you. don't be a dick.

#243 GOOGLE RON PAUL

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

it doesn't appear that you corrected anything as you yourself said there was confusion re: word choice

anyway next time don't jump into an entirely irrelevant tangent brought on by noted troll porn shop clerk and you won't even have to worry about me "being a dick"

#244 thefuzz

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:50 PM

still don't see how this system is good for anyone but employers

Without the lower per hour rate, prices would go through the roof to dine out, meaning restaurants will close and even more folks on the government teet. Servers take these jobs because they know that if the people they serve are supposed to supplement their income, when patrons don't it pisses off the servers. They also take these jobs because many of the hours are at night, so they can attend classes during the day and further their career.

it clearly results in stereotyping and poor service for some

Poor tippers create the stereotype, and they are wide ranging.

it causes significant uncertainty of take-home pay on a weekly basis

Every commissioned job in the country is like this. I would never work for a flat rate, ever.

it places the onus on the customer to directly pay the server a living wage (particularly in NC)

It sure does, and also gives us plenty of establishments to choose from when we don't feel like cooking, and for mostly decent prices as well.



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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

it doesn't appear that you corrected anything as you yourself said there was confusion re: word choice

anyway next time don't jump into an entirely irrelevant tangent brought on by noted troll porn shop clerk and you won't even have to worry about me "being a dick"


your compulsion to respond to PSC even though you had no idea what you were talking about is what warranted my "irrelevant tangent," and is what is driving you to respond to me now.

go troll-up someone else to slap-fight... I've done my time.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

Without the lower per hour rate, prices would go through the roof to dine out, meaning restaurants will close and even more folks on the government teet. Servers take these jobs because they know that if the people they serve are supposed to supplement their income, when patrons don't it pisses off the servers. They also take these jobs because many of the hours are at night, so they can attend classes during the day and further their career.


employees are already guaranteed minimum, and at least according to posters in this thread, customers are expected to tip

why is it that you're a total asshole if you don't tip at least 15%, but it's literally impossible to raise prices by at least 15% and send every dime of that directly to employees? it's almost as if employers don't really give a fug what you tip, so long as you pay for your overpriced steak.

Poor tippers create the stereotype, and they are wide ranging.


you keep trying to justify stereotyping. you shouldn't do that. what 100 "canadians" did before has no bearing on what the next "canadian" will do, and by giving that "canadian" poor service you have fed into a self-fulfilling prophecy

Every commissioned job in the country is like this. I would never work for a flat rate, ever.


idc what you would work for

It sure does, and also gives us plenty of establishments to choose from when we don't feel like cooking, and for mostly decent prices as well.


you mentioned you're some kind of shitty restaurant owner so of course you're totally ok with "employing" servers while other people are actually responsible for paying them. seems like a pretty sweet con tbh

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 05:04 PM

your compulsion to respond to PSC even though you had no idea what you were talking about is what warranted my "irrelevant tangent," and is what is driving you to respond to me now.

go troll-up someone else to slap-fight... I've done my time.


please explain how you corrected me

e: seriously i'm looking at this post

you're guaranteed minimum... but you almost always make more than that... my confusion was your catagorization of "minimum wage" as a tax bracket. You're taxed on income just like everyone else... most people who work for tips don't claim cash tips as income... therefor they are not taxed on that money, additionally, because it looks like they make so little on the books, they exist in a lower tax bracket than they often would otherwise... One of the reasons that tip jobs CAN be very good.


and seeing absolutely nothing that contradicts what i said but of course somehow "i had no idea what he was talking about" and you "corrected" me

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

You should try the Red Lobster in Greensboro. I do not go there due to obvious racism.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 10:35 AM

GS what do you do for a living?

#250 Porn Shop Clerk

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:25 PM

anyone that's ever worked a tipped job knows that unclaimed gratuities can allow someone to easily double minimum wage on most nights.

due to the inconsistent nature, its not a job for people with terrible money management skills, although that seems to be the general personality drawn to it

but cantrell read some poo in a book written by someone with no real experience in the field, so he's an expert

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 12:03 AM

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:01 AM

because tips = ENTITLEMENTZ


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