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#31 Montsta

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:48 AM

Manning, Flacco, Brady, Schaub, and Ryan also made it. Damn.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:49 AM

We fire the only coach to take us to a Superbowl and expect good things to happen to us....

Now he's sitting in Denver with the best QB in history, with one of the best defensive and offensive coordinators in the league... Karma


Except that he wasn't fired. The contract ran out and we let him move on. Nothing wrong with that.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:56 AM

The people saying we have all this talent sound like Saints fans....we are NOT that talented. We have Hurney to thank for that.

We have really good players at a few positions and crap at most of the others.

We have some excellent pieces to build around and the new GM just has to address our weaknesses instead of drafting more RBs and LBs.

Cam is also younger than all of those QBs and has a much higher ceiling as well. I think we'll get it with a solid GM pick up.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:02 PM

The people saying we have all this talent sound like Saints fans....we are NOT that talented. We have Hurney to thank for that.

We have really good players at a few positions and crap at most of the others.

We have some excellent pieces to build around and the new GM just has to address our weaknesses instead of drafting more RBs and LBs.

Cam is also younger than all of those QBs and has a much higher ceiling as well. I think we'll get it with a solid GM pick up.


here are some players most bring up when bragging about our talent.

DeAngleo, Stewart, Tolbert, Beason, Kalil, Gamble, Gross....

They either didn't play this year, play positions that aren't highlighted, or spend considerable time on the bench, or are past their primes.

You want your talent to play practically every down.....and be a be featured in what we do. They aren't suppose to be depth.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:05 PM

Get Cam and the backs a better OL, shore up DL, CB and FS. Hope we keep guys healthy. Make good decisions.

Playoffs.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:07 PM

here are some players most bring up when bragging about our talent.

DeAngleo, Stewart, Tolbert, Beason, Kalil, Gamble, Gross....

They either didn't play this year, play positions that aren't highlighted, or spend considerable time on the bench, or are past their primes.

You want your talent to play practically every down.....and be a be featured in what we do. They aren't suppose to be depth.



Agreed, you even left out Keek, which further adds to the same position talent that we have.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:09 PM

Get Cam and the backs a better OL, shore up DL, CB and FS. Hope we keep guys healthy. Make good decisions.

Playoffs.

what happens when an aging Smith gets hurt and plays 4-5 games in an upcoming season?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:10 PM

Turnover differential:

Carolina: +1

Washington: +17
Indianapolis: -12 (True playoff team right here)
Seattle: +13
San Francisco: +9
Cincinnati: +4
Denver: -1 (fumbles were a big problem for them)

For the rookies outside of Luck, look at these offensive rankings:

Seattle: rushing (3rd), Passing (27th)
Washington: 1st, 20th
San Francisco: 4th, 23rd


Obviously all those teams are helped out by their QB being so mobile. But do I need to point to the runningback's stats on all those teams? Gore - 12K, Morris - 16K, Lynch - 15k

Cam was the leading rusher with 40 less attempts...

Stopping the run is how you stuff these QBs. We did it marginally well against Morris and RG3 wasn't the same because play action wasn't as effective.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:10 PM

what happens when an aging Smith gets hurt and plays 4-5 games in an upcoming season?



Steve Smith needs to be relegated to the slot honestly.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:11 PM

Agreed, you even left out Keek, which further adds to the same position talent that we have.


Here is our 2012 talent.

Cam, Smith, Luke, CJ, Hardy. That isn't a loaded roster with talent that somehow missed the playoffs. No one else stands out or is a key cog in what we did.

guys on IR or play small roles don't carry the weight some imply when the "talent" conversation come up. You need talent to be at the positons that actually matter and play every down.


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