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#11 Proudiddy

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:10 AM

Only problem with out fanbase is that it isn't big enough. Other than that, its similar to every other NFL team. Except the Cowboys, because their fanbase sucks. :)

I can't agree with that DD.

I think we have a sizeable fanbase. Even here, we have numerous fans from out of state who have no personal ties to the Carolinas.

The problem is the passion and the indifference. It leads to apathy and acceptance of mediocre results.

Look at Philly. Those fans hate Reid's guts for the most part because of what, two under-performing seasons? Dude made the playoffs nine years IIRC and took them to multiple NFCCGs in a row as well as a Superbowl.

Philly fans aren't a group that other fanbases should look to model themselves after, but my point is, they remain passionate. Not saying they're right in the Reid situation, but because they are impassioned and adamant about what they want, their owner appeases.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:14 AM

I feel the same way but reality has set in and there is nothing we can do. I don't feel that Rivera should return next year. I just can't see him as the guy that leads our team to the playoffs and eventually to the Super Bowl. I really believe it will be a huge mistake if JR brings Rivera back next year.

Some people on this board seem to forgot about the rest of the season. Just a couple of weeks ago everybody up here wanted Rivera fired because we loss to the 2-14 Chiefs. Yeah we shown improvement after beating the Eagles, Falcons, Chargers, Raiders, and Saints. But those teams are not that good at all except the Falcons who didn't show up at all that game.

Everything in a nutshell is Rivera can't win when it really matters in September, October, and November. He just can't get it done and he has shown me more then enough that he is not the guy for this team.

Agreed completely.

And I didn't elaborate a lot on this part, but that's the thing... Does anyone think it's pure coincidence that he has blown leads and lost games against teams early in the season but suddenly turns into the second coming of Vince Lombardi in the last quarter or so of the season? No, it's not coincidence. It's because other teams become complacent when most everyone's spot is secured. How many teams did we play in that home stretch that had something to play for? Atlanta and homefield maybe, but not really... They could afford to lose to us and it wouldn't hurt them. How many of those teams were vying for a playoff spot out of the last 3 or 4 wins?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:20 AM

How was the Joe Adams situation handled improperly?

Not so much about Joe Adams, but his situation is a microcosm of Rivera's problems in personnel management...

It's really about benching Joe Adams for muffs, but leaving a guy like Nakamura out there to get torched and allow our defense to be a living, breathing, sieve. Or keeping him on the bench in favor of Armanti and his breakaway speed featuring his legendary 6th gear.

There seems to be little to no reasoning as to why or when he makes the moves he does regarding personnel and Adams was among those that found themselves in Rivera's doghouse repeatedly while others continued starting/playing who shouldn't have been.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:32 AM

I completely agree almost across the board on your comments, PD.

"Or keeping him on the bench in favor of Armanti and his breakaway speed featuring his legendary 6th gear."
Edwards really showed that off yesterday by outrunning the New Orleans punter.... oh, that's right... he didn't.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:40 AM

There personel issues you are citing are nothing more than armchair fanboy whinings. How many big plays did nakamura give aside from the one nakamura fail? How can you say that Adams and Norman were mistreated? Gettis hasn't played in two years, how are you so sure he could recreate his average first season? You say this list goes on, but please do as currently I can't see any cut and dry certainties that he mismanaged.

Joe Adams was given a second chance and fumbled it away.

If you think that he mismanaged the players so much, why did they play so hard for him throughout the season?

In my opinion, riveras fault simply lies in closing out close games and not trying to be too smart with the offence.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:43 AM

our fan base needs some patience with Rivera.

give the man more than one training camp and a few drafts.

he has only been coaching this team for 16 months.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:44 AM

Stopped reading at David Gettis.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:44 AM

The problem with the Panthers fan base is that it's full of Panthers fans....


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:44 AM

low standards.

low expectations.

going from 6-10 to 7-9 is solid progress.

meh....

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:57 AM

I've always supported D-Will and I hope he is still here next year. I'll admit he's a little overpaid, but damn, good players should be paid well. Not any scrub running back can do what D-Will does. Not to mention he had his career game behind a garbage makeshift o-line.


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