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#526 Gabeking

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:52 AM

Found this piece from earlier last year

http://blogs.greenba...o-could-be-gms/

Dave Gettleman, New York Giants’ pro personnel director: In his 24th season in the NFL, including 14th with the Giants. Extensive background in scouting college and pro players. Has worked for teams that have been to five Super Bowls (Broncos and Giants) and won two. Has interviewed in the past for GM jobs with the Giants and Browns. Stays under the radar because he’s not a self-promoter, but highly respected for his scouting acumen.



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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:52 AM

Kind of strange they'd word it in this manner.


It was intended to be humorous.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:54 AM

If that's the case, what does he actually provide to the situation!?


I think he gets a courtesy interview (maybe) and then goes back to his old job.

Ross and Gettleman each have over fifteen years working with scouting, player evaluation and such. Beane's experience doing those things is measured in weeks, and even that was with Rivera's help.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:54 AM

as it should be. the job shouldn't just go to a coach with no winning record because he's here. he should have to make his case why we shouldn't look elsewhere.

i just wish our new GM was part of the process.


If the new GM was, it would be more of an open mind handling the process also. Just knowing the Panthers way, we probably pretty much stick with status quo. The only thing about status quo is that it hasn't worked well with only 4 winning seasons in team history.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

Found this piece from earlier last year

http://blogs.greenba...o-could-be-gms/

Dave Gettleman, New York Giants’ pro personnel director: In his 24th season in the NFL, including 14th with the Giants. Extensive background in scouting college and pro players. Has worked for teams that have been to five Super Bowls (Broncos and Giants) and won two. Has interviewed in the past for GM jobs with the Giants and Browns. Stays under the radar because he’s not a self-promoter, but highly respected for his scouting acumen.


I expect that'd actually be a big positive for Jerry Richardson.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:56 AM

Kind of strange they'd word it in this manner.

not unless he's got nothing more than an edge on other coaching options and his job isn't as safe as some think.

btw, if the other guy is mccoy....give me rivera all day.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

I think he gets a courtesy interview (maybe) and then goes back to his old job.

Ross and Gettleman each have over fifteen years working with scouting, player evaluation and such. Beane's experience doing those things is measured in weeks, and even that was with Rivera's help.

mr scot on top of it.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

Seems to me that having Richardson make the coaching decision for me in my first year would be a positive instead of a negative. It essentially gives me one year to acclimate and figure out the cap dilemma without compounding that with a new coach or system and making sure that I had the personnel to run that scheme. If they do well he has something to build on. If they suck then he has no blame in that he wasn't part of the decision. He gets a pass for this year and can fire Rivera and pick his own guy next year when other fires have been put out. If the Panthers reach the playoffs then he looks like a genius for sticking with Rivera even when again he had little to do with it. A win/win unless he also finds out that he won't have say in the decisions going forward either which is a deal breaker. I look forward to seeing how it plays out.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

If the reports of JR having a tough time making a decision on Rivera are true, then yes he's being interviewed for the Job today.



I understand that. Just seems like interviewing your current girlfriend to keep the same position. You know what she brings to the table. And its pointless if you don't have some ladies lined up to replace her. Its either offering RR a fresh start OR just doing it out of respect, while they plan to move on anyway...

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

TV actually makes a pretty valid point. The cap is going to make things rougher next year (Thanks a lot, Marty).

That said, Rivera has shown the ability to coach the team under less than optimal circumstances (i.e. half the roster injured) so we'll see what happens next season.

I'd add that other teams have shown it is possible to field a competitive team even when you're not breaking the bank.


I agree it's going to be rough to get around it but my point was we go through this every year and yet it is always settled by the time the season rolls around. The cap has proven to be very easy to maneuver around. That is why Washington routinely always managed to have so much cap space. Heck, even last year when we were supposedly in cap hell, we came out with Dwan Edwards signed who performed great and snatched up Tolbert, Murphy (albeit via trade), re-signed Hangartner, and brought in Nakamura (which, well, was not a good thing, but still).

And I don't expect to see some drastic cuts like he was making it out to be, as if Rivera we just going to be handed nothing. The only two players (that make a reasonable impact on the team anyway) that might get cut are Williams and Gamble, and we don't need Williams and were without Gamble anyway.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:07 PM

PFT saying the Eagles will look at Gruden.





Jay Gruden that is, not Jon.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

Seems to me that having Richardson make the coaching decision for me in my first year would be a positive instead of a negative. It essentially gives me one year to acclimate and figure out the cap dilemma without compounding that with a new coach or system and making sure that I had the personnel to run that scheme. If they do well he has something to build on. If they suck then he has no blame in that he wasn't part of the decision. He gets a pass for this year and can fire Rivera and pick his own guy next year when other fires have been put out. If the Panthers reach the playoffs then he looks like a genius for sticking with Rivera even when again he had little to do with it. A win/win unless he also finds out that he won't have say in the decisions going forward either which is a deal breaker. I look forward to seeing how it plays out.

well when you put it like that.....

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

And someone made a great point earlier. It is interesting that for all the hype Marc Ross is getting, he doesn't seem to be the favorite for any GM job which is very reminiscent of Rivera. Either he's a really poor interviewer or just not nearly as good of a candidate as he's being made out to be.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

And someone made a great point earlier. It is interesting that for all the hype Marc Ross is getting, he doesn't seem to be the favorite for any GM job which is very reminiscent of Rivera. Either he's a really poor interviewer or just not nearly as good of a candidate as he's being made out to be.


Jags interviewed him yesterday and have reportedly crossed him off their list (posted more in the candidates thread).

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

Seems to me that having Richardson make the coaching decision for me in my first year would be a positive instead of a negative. It essentially gives me one year to acclimate and figure out the cap dilemma without compounding that with a new coach or system and making sure that I had the personnel to run that scheme. If they do well he has something to build on. If they suck then he has no blame in that he wasn't part of the decision. He gets a pass for this year and can fire Rivera and pick his own guy next year when other fires have been put out. If the Panthers reach the playoffs then he looks like a genius for sticking with Rivera even when again he had little to do with it. A win/win unless he also finds out that he won't have say in the decisions going forward either which is a deal breaker. I look forward to seeing how it plays out.


But with the new GM he will have to draft and add players via free agency for Rivera. What's the point of doing all that if next year Rivera doesn't make the playoffs which isn't guaranteed anyway? We pretty much wasted time, money, and a draft class if they don't fit the new coach system. We are starting over with a new GM, don't you think it would be fair if we gave him a clean slate and able to pick his own guy and build now?


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