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#757 CarolinaVeins

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:47 PM

My bad guys...i was rushing and didn't type the name

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:50 PM

NFL Network's La Canfora just reported that he spoke with representatives of John Gruden and his would-be coaching staff, and he was holding out for the Carolina Panthers job. Said he already developed a Chip Kelly type playbook for the Panthers offense. Wanted to choose his own GM.

Yet we keep Rivera.....what a joke.

Not who I want but it was still interesting

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LaCanfora on John Gruden: "People told me that the one coaching job that would have really gotten him excited was Carolina."

wow wow wow.

with a kelly style playbook to boot.

i wonder if kelly had his eyes on here as well.

i wonder how attractive this team would be to other potential HCs if we decided that losing wasn't good enough for rivera to keep his job.

rivera better get us in the playoffs and find a way to deliver more than one winning season in a row. if he can't, the FO is holding this team back.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:54 PM

wow wow wow.

with a kelly style playbook to boot.

i wonder if kelly had his eyes on here as well.

i wonder how attractive this team would be to other potential HCs if we decided that losing wasn't good enough for rivera to keep his job.

rivera better get us in the playoffs and find a way to deliver more than one winning season in a row. if he can't, the FO is holding this team back.


Those guys will still be there after we fire Rivera after 8 games next season ;). Gruden may not get to choose his GM so maybe he would be off the table (although I doubt it), but Chip Kelly looks like he will still be an option.

Although, I would be lying if I said it isn't a little frustrating that we didn't take advantage of our job being so desirous right now.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:55 PM

That means all jobs where the GM can pick their coach have been filled. The "why would someone want to come here without control" excuse is now invalid.


When was it valid?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

Good point rayzor... he was crushing on Cam kinda hard. that Monday night football game was practically an interview

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

Those guys will still be there after we fire Rivera after 8 games next season ;). Gruden may not get to choose his GM so maybe he would be off the table (although I doubt it), but Chip Kelly looks like he will still be an option.

Although, I would be lying if I said it wasn't a little frustrating that we didn't take advantage of our job being so desirous right now.

rivera better do better than be average at best.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

Regarding Gruden, I wasn't even interested in him as just a head coach. Sure as heck wouldn't be interested in him with total control of the team.

And Gruden thinks he'd deserve total control after taking the Bucs (with Dungy's players and Monte Kiffin as DC) from the Super Bowl through mediocrity to the point where his players told the team they refused to play if the team kept Gruden in charge. That's almost beyond a huge ego. That's almost a disconnect with reality.

Clearly, this is a guy who fervently believes his own hype.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:00 PM

With how attractive Carolina's job was with no GM in place, Rivera needs to deliver consistent playoff's and a Super Bowl win in the next couple of years. Otherwise keeping Rivera was a mistake. This isn't about Gruden, Rivera or Kelly. Just the job being attractive to head coaches in general. Carolina would've been able to get what ever HC they wanted to have.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

Regarding Gruden, I wasn't interested in him as a head coach. Sure as heck wouldn't be interested in him with total control.

And Gruden thinks he'd deserve total control after taking the Bucs (with Dungy's players and Monte Kiffin as DC) from the Super Bowl through mediocrity to the point where his players told the team they refused to play if the team kept Gruden in charge. That's almost beyond a huge ego. That's almost a disconnect with reality.

i don't care about gruden, but what is a big deal was him saying that the panthers was the only HC gig he was interested in. i just wonder how many other top coaching prospects out there would be wanting it as well and how many of them would be better at getting this team in the playoffs than what rivera has managed to do.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:11 PM

And for those of you that think Gruden would have been so bad based on his past, do you not think maybe he has learned a few lessons after being able to sit back and observe for awhile?

After all, many of you are expecting an epiphany from Rivera and Chud in year 3, but can't imagine guys like Gruden and Cowher second guessing some of their earlier failings?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:23 PM

I'd prefer the question of whether or not Gruden would be better this time around be answered somewhere else.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:55 PM

In the wake of DC Rob Ryan's dismissal, Dallas assistants on the defensive side of the ball have been told that they must "interview for their jobs" (ESPN Dallas, cited in the Red Zone)

One of those assistants is a name Panther fans may remember.

http://www.dallascow...62-d96fde6a62c5

(no, I don't think we'll bring him back; Eric Washington and Sam Mills III look to be doing a pretty good job).