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#1 Vagrant

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:44 PM

Many people are wondering why we haven't made a move to either fire or publicly endorse Ron Rivera for next season. This isn't about JR being indecisive or attempting to buck any trends. Arguably, the most important hire that will be made will NOT be the head coaching position. It will be the GM.

Now, what is the first way to show a GM that you're a meddling owner? Make his first big decision for him before his seat is even warm. That would be..... the fate of the head coach.

While JR will certainly have a TON of input on the situation, a likely interview question that can be pitched now is what are you going to do with Ron Rivera. The answer to that question may help determine if JR and Accorsi/Beane, etc. are on the same page as the potential GM in their vision for the team.

Part of me feels that JR has already made up his mind, made it up a long time ago, and is waiting to let the new GM handle the formalities as well as the new head coaching search.

When a highly regarded executive steps into a situation, he wants a degree of autonomy. He wants to be able to form the team in his own image. Nothing is more enticing to these guys than complete control over personnel. No untouchable head coaches, no untouchable players, and a blank check to do what they feel is best for the team. Anything less than that, and the job becomes less attractive.

#2 Gabeking

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:47 PM

So much reason in your voice I don't know where to begin!

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:48 PM

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#4 Vagrant

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:50 PM

Come for the reason, stay for the voice of reason.

#5 Dex

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:51 PM

Someone pie me quickly I don't like it being 666.

#6 CarolinaCoolin

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:53 PM

I could see a hire late in the week followed by the fire of RR then the fly out of Kelly after his bowl game.

#7 SIGCHI222

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 06:55 PM

Someone pie me quickly I don't like it being 666.


I tried 3 times but I keep getting the message, "This operation is not possible...BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"
Strange, don't cha think?

#8 Bj-Monster23

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:00 PM

Many people are wondering why we haven't made a move to either fire or publicly endorse Ron Rivera for next season. This isn't about JR being indecisive or attempting to buck any trends. Arguably, the most important hire that will be made will NOT be the head coaching position. It will be the GM.

Now, what is the first way to show a GM that you're a meddling owner? Make his first big decision for him before his seat is even warm. That would be..... the fate of the head coach.

While JR will certainly have a TON of input on the situation, a likely interview question that can be pitched now is what are you going to do with Ron Rivera. The answer to that question may help determine if JR and Accorsi/Beane, etc. are on the same page as the potential GM in their vision for the team.

Part of me feels that JR has already made up his mind, made it up a long time ago, and is waiting to let the new GM handle the formalities as well as the new head coaching search.

When a highly regarded executive steps into a situation, he wants a degree of autonomy. He wants to be able to form the team in his own image. Nothing is more enticing to these guys than complete control over personnel. No untouchable head coaches, no untouchable players, and a blank check to do what they feel is best for the team. Anything less than that, and the job becomes less attractive.


I like the way you think. Hopefully we follow this model.

#9 ickmule

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:06 PM

I could see a hire late in the week followed by the fire of RR then the fly out of Kelly after his bowl game.


No.

#10 CarolinaCoolin

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:11 PM

No.


Yes.

#11 Wine&Cheese

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:18 PM

So much reason in your voice I don't know where to begin!


DAMN! LOOK AT THAT ASS!!! WOW! Oh sorry... I didnt even read your comment, got distracted... Here, have some free PIE for the GIF. You deserve it! That made my day... lol!

#12 sml1950

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

An alternative scenario is that JR is looking to bring in a big name coach (Gruden?) who will want coaching /personnel control and let Beane handle off field administrative matters as the GM in name only.

If he can't attract this kind of coach, he will then hire a more capable GM, who will make their own decision on Rivera

#13 Gabeking

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:18 PM

DAMN! LOOK AT THAT ASS!!! WOW! Oh sorry... I didnt even read your comment, got distracted... Here, have some free PIE for the GIF. You deserve it! That made my day... lol!


That's from the 2 chainz video lol

#14 Kevin Greene

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:21 PM

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 08:29 PM

Many people are wondering why we haven't made a move to either fire or publicly endorse Ron Rivera for next season. This isn't about JR being indecisive or attempting to buck any trends. Arguably, the most important hire that will be made will NOT be the head coaching position. It will be the GM.

Now, what is the first way to show a GM that you're a meddling owner? Make his first big decision for him before his seat is even warm. That would be..... the fate of the head coach.

While JR will certainly have a TON of input on the situation, a likely interview question that can be pitched now is what are you going to do with Ron Rivera. The answer to that question may help determine if JR and Accorsi/Beane, etc. are on the same page as the potential GM in their vision for the team.

Part of me feels that JR has already made up his mind, made it up a long time ago, and is waiting to let the new GM handle the formalities as well as the new head coaching search.

When a highly regarded executive steps into a situation, he wants a degree of autonomy. He wants to be able to form the team in his own image. Nothing is more enticing to these guys than complete control over personnel. No untouchable head coaches, no untouchable players, and a blank check to do what they feel is best for the team. Anything less than that, and the job becomes less attractive.



So by waiting on a GM and not being ready to move on one TODAY, he could cause his new GM to miss out on the top HC Candidates.

Now let me see, what is more un attractive having the option to keep or fire Rivera or have my choice of top HC Candidates..hummm


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