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The case for firing Rivera and the case for keeping Rivera


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#49 Anybodyhome

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 05:33 PM

This is your argument for JR being cheap?


You're the one that stated Richardson paid and/or overpaid players. I merely pointed out that is not the case and that paying players based upon a salary cap has nothing to do with paying coaches. This is beside the fact the GM is doing the contract negotiating and deciding the salary structure, not JR.

You used the example of overpaying players as evidence that he's not cheap. The argument has nothing to do with players; we were talking about coaches.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:32 PM

You're the one that stated Richardson paid and/or overpaid players. I merely pointed out that is not the case and that paying players based upon a salary cap has nothing to do with paying coaches. This is beside the fact the GM is doing the contract negotiating and deciding the salary structure, not JR.

You used the example of overpaying players as evidence that he's not cheap. The argument has nothing to do with players; we were talking about coaches.


Ok. He paid John Fox $6.5M.

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:40 PM

It doesn't matter anymore we are stuck with being content and mediocre. The fact that reminds is Richardson is going to bring Rivera back. Smh

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 09:57 PM

It doesn't matter anymore we are stuck with being content and mediocre. The fact that reminds is Richardson is going to bring Rivera back. Smh


Hopefully Richardson isn't bringing Rivera back.

Richardson is hiring a GM who will make that decision.

Hopefully.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:59 PM

You are saying that because RR finally got things turned around after Hurney got fired and he was put on the hot seat is a good reason to keep him?


First, let me say thanks for at least admitting RR got things turned around :thumbsu:

Seriously though. All I am saying is that regardless of how he turned things around, he did. And because he did, he earned another year.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 02:34 PM

This team is only competitive because we have Cam and Rivera knows how to coach up a defense. I don't believe we will ever reach our true potential with Ron as HC.

That said, I could live with him returning, but only if Chud is replaced by an OC/AHC with good game management skills (to help Ron in that area).

We go into next year with the same staff and I expect the same results as years 1 and 2. Flashes of brilliance, flashes of ineptitude.



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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:06 PM

All I know is, if we're going to keep him we need to get someone in here with some major NFL experience to help him out with things such as: clock management, knowing when to go for it or not, etc. We need to get an older offensive coordinator or assistant coach. Also, Chud needs to go.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:07 PM

So basically, I have become pretty indifferent about the whole thing because I think a strong case can be made for either firing him or keeping him. The new GM and JR have a tough decision to make, and no matter what they decide I will see the logic in it.

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Easily your best post ever on the Huddle, Teeray. good stuff man, money

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:29 PM

Easily your best post ever on the Huddle, Teeray. good stuff man, money


Thanks for the kind words!

I personally think my post in the John Kilgo thread about masturbating on my keyboard to brazzers.com is my best post. But nonetheless I appreciate your kind post.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:38 PM

It doesn't matter anymore we are stuck with being content and mediocre. The fact that reminds is Richardson is going to bring Rivera back. Smh


I would like to make a motion to throw ban SMH SMDH and YOLO as 2013 banned acronyms.

BJ you are to me the MOST vocal fire Rivera guy on here as to your 139 different post about Rivera
should go threads.

Who is this" Warlock of football" we will bring in If you were the GM to right this ship with flawless turnkey success?

I have not heard any name or combo of fantasy combos of three head coaches that I can see doing this personally so.

Also is Jack Del Rio a possibility?! :o

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:18 PM

I would like to make a motion to throw ban SMH SMDH and YOLO as 2013 banned acronyms.

BJ you are to me the MOST vocal fire Rivera guy on here as to your 139 different post about Rivera
should go threads.

Who is this" Warlock of football" we will bring in If you were the GM to right this ship with flawless turnkey success?

I have not heard any name or combo of fantasy combos of three head coaches that I can see doing this personally so.

Also is Jack Del Rio a possibility?! :o


Well their is a couple of guys I feel that would be great coaches. I really like Ken Whisenhunt. When he actually had a pretty good QB in Kurt Warner he went to the Super Bowl. He also did a good job developing Ben Roethlisberger when he was with the Steelers. The second person I believe would be a good HC is Greg Roman. He has ties to the Panthers organization and has done a good job the past couple of years in San Francisco. I also would love for JR to look at Chip Kelly.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:53 AM

Both seasons...let's look at what Rivera's record looks like against playoff teams.

2012
2-3

2011
1-6

And then you couple our wins with end of season wins where a lot of teams are packing it in for the season, explain to me again why Rivera's wins are anything worthy of saving his job.