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#46 Happy Panther

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:44 PM

This would all be solved by increasing economic growth by 1 point long term.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:14 PM

that's what happens when they've gerrymandered themselves into untouchable positions...


you might have seen the same thing i did on Meet the Press when Tom Brokaw casually tossed out a stat that 75% of those in Congress were from gerrymandered districts. and my jaw dropped.

he just more or less said we are cooked because of this. and i tend to agree.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:17 PM

you might have seen the same thing i did on Meet the Press when Tom Brokaw casually tossed out a stat that 75% of those in Congress were from gerrymandered districts. and my jaw dropped.

he just more or less said we are cooked because of this. and i tend to agree.


must've missed that, i was barely paying attention to meet the press this week... i was reading about it in a politico article. but, agreed... it's quite bad.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:03 PM

Too much.

The SS tax is probably the tax that I hate the most.

14.2 % of my taxable income going to fund that program. If I make 90K per year, do you think I will ever see more than 5% of the cash that I sent to SS in my retirement years.


You should like it, There is a regressive cap on it. They don't tax you on anything you make over $114,000.

#50 MadHatter

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 07:50 PM

The electoral college system is a relic from before instantaneous cross country electronic communication. It has no place here today.


Exactly.

True popular vote is exactly the best solution.

A vote in NY should carry exactly the same weight as a vote in Montana.

A Repub vote in Mass is worthless...just as a Dem vote in Wyoming is worthless.

Can't think of any logical reason to keep the electoral college.

#51 Gazi

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:28 PM

Did DOW collapse as predicted?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:32 PM

the smart money was AHEAD of the cliff because they are smart and have balls. once the uncertainty was over, the market responded properly.

smart people never ever never ever wait on the govt.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:35 PM

So the numbers and threads about DOW are always bullshit. Glad we agree

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:38 PM

nope. i started one thread about making sure people adjust their portfolio for the cliff. never once did i say doom and gloom and to sell. but to be prepared.

never at least looking at what you own in stocks or your retirement plan and just assume its always going to go up is not wise.

today was one day out of 360(give or take some bank holidays) and you always have to just pay attention to avoid getting blindsided.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

lol. Yes I remember.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:57 AM

You should like it, There is a regressive cap on it. They don't tax you on anything you make over $114,000.



Can't tell if serious?

#57 GOOGLE RON PAUL

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 03:58 PM

truly the taxes i hate the most are the ones that i will not directly benefit from

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:13 PM

I take it you guys arent aware of the fact that this whole fiscal cliff and debt stuff is all a fabricated hoax?

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:15 PM

I take it you guys arent aware of the fact that this whole fiscal cliff and debt stuff is all a fabricated hoax?


If by fabricated hoax, you mean sensationalized with the help of ben bernanke, then sure.

If you mean something like an illuminati distraction away from the truth, then please go on.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 04:17 PM

I take it you guys arent aware of the fact that this whole fiscal cliff and debt stuff is all a fabricated hoax?


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