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Observer article regarding Rivera/GM

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Would you really turn down a GM job if you were told that they're giving the current coach 1 more year to prove himself or he's gone? Because that is probably what JR is saying. Rivera has 1 year to have a winning and make the playoffs or he's done. Don't see that holding a GM prospect back

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I don't understand why people assume Rivera staying = Beane staying. The Bears hired new GM Phil Emery last year and kept Lovie Smith, so it's not like you can't retain an existing coach and not be able to hire an outside GM.

But the new GM wasn't going to come in and just fire Lovie Smith right out of the gate. Do you know how much heat he would've took for that? Look at the heat he is taking this year just by letting Lovie go. Hiring a nee GM ultimately lead to Lovie Smith getting fired though. Most General managers want their own guy.

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Oh, there are people that have a clue. It's just that none of them are talking.

It's almost Iike they value their jobs

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Common sense would probably tell you that Rivera ends up staying because we looked like we was trending upward. If JR bring Rivera back that would be a mistake and might ultimately hurt his chances at getting a pretty good GM. History tells us that most General managers really want their own guy to come in and be the man. Rivera staying could lead to Brandon Beane being the next Panthers GM.

Mediocrity here we come!

sad that mediocrity is a step up from where we've been the past few years.

oh the joy of being a fan of a team that aspires to being average.

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Would you really turn down a GM job if you were told that they're giving the current coach 1 more year to prove himself or he's gone? Because that is probably what JR is saying. Rivera has 1 year to have a winning and make the playoffs or he's done. Don't see that holding a GM prospect back

That's the point, it's now guaranteed to make the playoffs. You are hurting the coach before the season even start by telling him the only way he keeps his job is by making the playoffs. If that is the case, you might as well save him the trouble and let him go now.

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That's the point, it's now guaranteed to make the playoffs. You are hurting the coach before the season even start by telling him the only way he keeps his job is by making the playoffs. If that is the case, you might as well save him the trouble and let him go now.

I'm pretty sure Rivera knows at this point that if he gets a third season, the only way he's getting a fourth is if he makes the playoffs. How many coaches are retained after three straight non-playoff years? Not many.

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I remember I brought up a thread during the season in which I said we needed to hire our guy ASAP and I got a bunch of "we have plenty of time, blah blah blah..."

Well, I don't think many have considered this... Now that we've retained Rivera to this point, it's a sign that we're keeping him. Now, for those of you thinking we're going to go out and hire a big name GM, guess what? What new "big name" GM is wanting to come into an organization that has held onto their coach from the previous year so that they can't fully assert control over the football operations?

And now we're getting to the point that saying, "If he's not your guy, bring your guy in..." to any prospective GM candidate is a fallacy. We've strung it out long enough that likely even if we found a GM to come in with Rivera already in place and they fired him, who are they going to replace him with?

Just looking like a big build up to nothing.

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Oh, there are people that have a clue. It's just that none of them are talking.

Morrison and Richardson

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I remember I brought up a thread during the season in which I said we needed to hire our guy ASAP and I got a bunch of "we have plenty of time, blah blah blah..."

Well, I don't think many have considered this... Now that we've retained Rivera to this point, it's a sign that we're keeping him. Now, for those of you thinking we're going to go out and hire a big name GM, guess what? What new "big name" GM is wanting to come into an organization that has held onto their coach from the previous year so that they can't fully assert control over the football operations?

And now we're getting to the point that saying, "If he's not your guy, bring your guy in..." to any prospective GM candidate is a fallacy. We've strung it out long enough that likely even if we found a GM to come in with Rivera already in place and they fired him, who are they going to replace him with?

Just looking like a big build up to nothing.

I completely agree with this. No GM will want to come in to somebody else guy. They want their own guy most of the time. You are pretty much limiting your choice of candidates if you tell them that they have to stick with Rivera.

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