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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:26 PM
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:27 PM
btdubs for anybody who was a staunch hurney supporter has he landed any executive job in the personnel management dept. of another team yet? doesn't have to be GM could be anything. surely being this cap genius who never misses in the first round of the draft he should've been in demand
Who's to say he wanted another job right away?
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:37 PM
I don't think restructuring contracts is as easy as some think....OK then maybe not CJ but everyone else who has a big contract I'm sure will be asked to restructure.
We need to re-sign Dwan Edwards and maybe Munnerlyn.
It still can create more of the same problems down the road. Take Beason for example...ask him to restructure and he turns out to never be able to comeback. That bonus money created in a restructure would still be an issue if you need to part with him.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:39 PM
It's probably easier to stay under the cap when you draft and sign so few good players.Hurney never had problems getting the team under the cap.
If he was as bad as most of you say he was, then his replacement should be able to do it even better.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:40 PM
Where are the Hurney supporters?!!!!?
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:44 PM
OK then maybe not CJ but everyone else who has a big contract I'm sure will be asked to restructure.
We need to re-sign Dwan Edwards and maybe Munnerlyn.
Dwan is already signed for 2013. I'll bet we let Capt explore his options and re-sign only on the cheap.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:49 PM
I don't think restructuring contracts is as easy as some think....
It still can create more of the same problems down the road. Take Beason for example...ask him to restructure and he turns out to never be able to comeback. That bonus money created in a restructure would still be an issue if you need to part with him.
OK then maybe not Beason, or CJ but everyone else.........Yes.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 07:32 PM
We atleast have to look what teams are willing to pay for Gamble in a trade.. He very well could be our best trading item. One of the better CB with only 2 years left on his contract.
3/4 is not out of the picture and then we just have to hit a homerun in the draft.
Its a risky move, but we are cornered with all those shitty contracts.
3/4 is not out of the picture and then we just have to hit a homerun in the draft.
Its a risky move, but we are cornered with all those shitty contracts.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 07:58 PM
Chris Gamble: It’s sad to say, but the Panthers almost have to cut their best cornerback, because he can provide more cap relief than anyone on the roster. Gamble has a $10.9 million cap figure. The Panthers could free up $7.9 million by releasing him.
Ron Edwards: The aging and often-injured defensive tackle almost certainly will be gone. The Panthers instantly would clear $2.5 million by releasing him.
Haruki Nakamura: The Panthers signed him as a free agent in 2012, and Nakamaura didn’t really work out. The Panthers could free up $1.8 million by releasing him.
Easy 12.2 Million saved right there, Gamble isn't worth it, Ron Edwards definitely injured too much, and hopefully we can draft a replacement. Nakamura, i dont even want to begin to discuss that waste of space.
Anways
The Panthers currently have $136 million committed toward a 2013 salary cap that is expected to be slightly more than $120 million.
That knocks us down to 124 million essentially, then you come down to the hard decisions on Beason, Williams, and Gross, while giving us room to sign rookies, expiring contract players, and FA.
Gross wont be touched, so Beason and Williams will have to restructure or wont be back.
Ron Edwards: The aging and often-injured defensive tackle almost certainly will be gone. The Panthers instantly would clear $2.5 million by releasing him.
Haruki Nakamura: The Panthers signed him as a free agent in 2012, and Nakamaura didn’t really work out. The Panthers could free up $1.8 million by releasing him.
Easy 12.2 Million saved right there, Gamble isn't worth it, Ron Edwards definitely injured too much, and hopefully we can draft a replacement. Nakamura, i dont even want to begin to discuss that waste of space.
Anways
The Panthers currently have $136 million committed toward a 2013 salary cap that is expected to be slightly more than $120 million.
That knocks us down to 124 million essentially, then you come down to the hard decisions on Beason, Williams, and Gross, while giving us room to sign rookies, expiring contract players, and FA.
Gross wont be touched, so Beason and Williams will have to restructure or wont be back.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 08:15 PM
We're tight money wise but that's probably means we're ready to contend for the playoffs. We lost most of our games by less than a TD. Manhandled the Falcons twice(with one unlucky lost), swept the saints and we have something to settle with the Buccaneers(we had no business losing to them twice). Minus those last second lost to the Falcons, Chicago we could easily have been a 10-6 team contending for the wild card.
Our defense has now arrived. Probably a mid level defense. We just need to take care of the WR position in the draft and a little twirking of the OL together with the injured players coming back next year. I can see us sweeping the saints(again), buccaneers and split with falcons next year. Team building is easy when you have a monster of a franchise QB like Cam. Can't wait!
Our defense has now arrived. Probably a mid level defense. We just need to take care of the WR position in the draft and a little twirking of the OL together with the injured players coming back next year. I can see us sweeping the saints(again), buccaneers and split with falcons next year. Team building is easy when you have a monster of a franchise QB like Cam. Can't wait!
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:12 PM
Chris Gamble: It’s sad to say, but the Panthers almost have to cut their best cornerback, because he can provide more cap relief than anyone on the roster. Gamble has a $10.9 million cap figure. The Panthers could free up $7.9 million by releasing him.
Ron Edwards: The aging and often-injured defensive tackle almost certainly will be gone. The Panthers instantly would clear $2.5 million by releasing him.
Haruki Nakamura: The Panthers signed him as a free agent in 2012, and Nakamaura didn’t really work out. The Panthers could free up $1.8 million by releasing him.
Easy 12.2 Million saved right there, Gamble isn't worth it, Ron Edwards definitely injured too much, and hopefully we can draft a replacement. Nakamura, i dont even want to begin to discuss that waste of space.
Anways
The Panthers currently have $136 million committed toward a 2013 salary cap that is expected to be slightly more than $120 million.
That knocks us down to 124 million essentially, then you come down to the hard decisions on Beason, Williams, and Gross, while giving us room to sign rookies, expiring contract players, and FA.
Gross wont be touched, so Beason and Williams will have to restructure or wont be back.
I think Gross is a likely candidate to cut. He will be 33 years old in July and is not the pro bowl player that he was a few years ago. We can cut him as a June 1 cut and save 9.7 million. Add that to the 3.5 we are carrying over and throw in Nakamura and Edwards and we are suddenly under the cap even if we keep Gamble.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:14 PM
We atleast have to look what teams are willing to pay for Gamble in a trade.. He very well could be our best trading item. One of the better CB with only 2 years left on his contract.
3/4 is not out of the picture and then we just have to hit a homerun in the draft.
Its a risky move, but we are cornered with all those shitty contracts.
You realize this is a 30 year old corner back in not the best of health right? What do you think we will get for him?
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:18 PM
Its obvious that we have un necessary monetary baggage on this team - I think any cap guy worth his salt in conjunction with a gm and head coach will free up plenty of money to do what has to be done in the off season to improve this team
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:20 PM
The third round pick we lost. The big deal is the money we save not the pick we receive.You realize this is a 30 year old corner back in not the best of health right? What do you think we will get for him?
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