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Would you hire this guy as your head coach and pay him huge bucks?


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#1 panthers55

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

So if I told you that a very successful college coach had never played in the NFL or even in college, had no experience as a coordinator or position coach in the NFL and prior to his current job coached at John Hopkins, Columbia, and New Hampshire. Would you be in a sure fire to hire him?

I wouldn't. People are so crazy about the read option and uptempo offense of Oregon that they forget that their coach has no NFL experience of any kind and has coached a good D-1 program for 4 years.

Name me one successful college coach who didn't play in college or in the pros with no NFL experience who was instantly successful in the NFL as a head coach.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

but but that's the guy everyone wants, we have to get him!

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:52 PM

I would ask you for more information about the guy you're describing before I said whether I wanted him or not.

You can't sum up a coach in a few paragraphs well enough to make a decision.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:54 PM

I would ask you for more information about the guy you're describing before I said whether I wanted him or not.

You can't sum up a coach in a few paragraphs well enough to make a decision.


Name me one college head coach with his type of resume who was successful in the NFL as a head coach right off the bat.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

The Patriots sure thought he was worth studying

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:58 PM

So if I told you that a very successful college coach had never played in the NFL or even in college, had no experience as a coordinator or position coach in the NFL and prior to his current job coached at John Hopkins, Columbia, and New Hampshire. Would you be in a sure fire to hire him?

I wouldn't. People are so crazy about the read option and uptempo offense of Oregon that they forget that their coach has no NFL experience of any kind and has coached a good D-1 program for 4 years.

Name me one successful college coach who didn't play in college or in the pros with no NFL experience who was instantly successful in the NFL as a head coach.


Saban, Harbaugh?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:58 PM

logical fallacies at every turn, my god man this is not how you put together an argument

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:59 PM

So if I told you that a very successful college coach had never played in the NFL or even in college, had no experience as a coordinator or position coach in the NFL and prior to his current job coached at John Hopkins, Columbia, and New Hampshire. Would you be in a sure fire to hire him?

I wouldn't. People are so crazy about the read option and uptempo offense of Oregon that they forget that their coach has no NFL experience of any kind and has coached a good D-1 program for 4 years.

Name me one successful college coach who didn't play in college or in the pros with no NFL experience who was instantly successful in the NFL as a head coach.


I have my doubts about him too, but he does seem to be very well regarded in NFL circles (by coaches, GM's, etc.). That makes me take him a bit more seriously.

JR/new GM should probably at least talk to him to form their own impressions.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

Saban, Harbaugh?


Harbaugh never played at Michigan or for the Bears, Colts, Ravens, Chargers, Lions and even the Panthers? What time dimension do you live in?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

Harbaugh never played at Michigan or for the Bears, Colts, Ravens, Chargers, Lions and even the Panthers? What time dimension do you live in?


John Harbaugh?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:04 PM

John Harbaugh?


Played at Miami Ohio.

Saban played at Kent State too. Both DB's.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

The Patriots sure thought he was worth studying


Looking at how he runs his practice is not the same thing as saying he would be great head coach. As I said, then hire his offensive coordinator as your coordinator. None of this means he will be a great HC. Rivera has a history of being a great defensive coordinator. People emulated his work but does it make him a great head coach??

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:07 PM

Played at Miami Ohio.

Saban played at Kent State too. Both DB's.


Interesting, didn't know that.

Either way, it's a terrible argument to be making in the first place.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:08 PM

Looking at how he runs his practice is not the same thing as saying he would be great head coach. As I said, then hire his offensive coordinator as your coordinator. None of this means he will be a great HC. Rivera has a history of being a great defensive coordinator. People emulated his work but does it make him a great head coach??


Hiring Josh McDaniels worked out real good for the Broncos didn't it?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:12 PM

Again Saban (Oiler for one year as DB coach) and Harbaugh (Philly for 9 years) both coached in the NFL in other capacities prior to being a head coach. Kelly has never played or coached at any level besides college. And Saban was that successful in the NFL as a head coach.