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Would you hire this guy as your head coach and pay him huge bucks?

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Played at Miami Ohio.

Saban played at Kent State too. Both DB's.

Interesting, didn't know that.

Either way, it's a terrible argument to be making in the first place.

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Looking at how he runs his practice is not the same thing as saying he would be great head coach. As I said, then hire his offensive coordinator as your coordinator. None of this means he will be a great HC. Rivera has a history of being a great defensive coordinator. People emulated his work but does it make him a great head coach??

Hiring Josh McDaniels worked out real good for the Broncos didn't it?

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Again Saban (Oiler for one year as DB coach) and Harbaugh (Philly for 9 years) both coached in the NFL in other capacities prior to being a head coach. Kelly has never played or coached at any level besides college. And Saban was that successful in the NFL as a head coach.

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Interesting, didn't know that.

Either way, it's a terrible argument to be making in the first place.

It is a great argument. No one I can think of has ever gone from college to the pros with no playing experience or NFL experience with success. Good luck on the players buying into your system when they know you never played or coaches at this level. These aren't impressionable 18 year olds but men.

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It is a great argument. No one I can think of has ever gone from college to the pros with no playing experience or NFL experience with success. Good luck on the players buying into your system when they know you never played or coaches at this level. These aren't impressionable 18 year olds but men.

Jimmy Johnson says hello.

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So if I told you that a very successful college coach had never played in the NFL or even in college, had no experience as a coordinator or position coach in the NFL and prior to his current job coached at John Hopkins, Columbia, and New Hampshire. Would you be in a sure fire to hire him?

I wouldn't. People are so crazy about the read option and uptempo offense of Oregon that they forget that their coach has no NFL experience of any kind and has coached a good D-1 program for 4 years.

Name me one successful college coach who didn't play in college or in the pros with no NFL experience who was instantly successful in the NFL as a head coach.

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Is 3 rings considered successful?

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Hiring Josh McDaniels worked out real good for the Broncos didn't it?

What does that have to do with anything. Prove that guys with college playing experience and tons of coordinator work can fail in the NFL? I know that.

Now what about a guy with no playing experience and no NFL experience.

Exactly............

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The Patriots sure thought he was worth studying

There is a BIG difference in studying some aspects of what he does on offense and turning the keys to the car over to him to implement that full offense.

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jimmy-johnson.jpg

Is 3 rings considered successful?

Do you not read or what??

Johnson played college ball for the lengendary Frank Broyles in Arkansas and was a SWC defensive linemen. One of his teammates was Jerry Jones.

Fail again. The criteria was never played college football or in the pros and had no NFL experience.

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Jimmy Johnson says hello.

Jimmy Johnson says he played college ball at Arkansas under the legend Frank Broyles who taught him a ton about coaching.

fail again...........................

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So if I told you that a very successful college coach had never played in the NFL or even in college, had no experience as a coordinator or position coach in the NFL and prior to his current job coached at John Hopkins, Columbia, and New Hampshire. Would you be in a sure fire to hire him?

I wouldn't. People are so crazy about the read option and uptempo offense of Oregon that they forget that their coach has no NFL experience of any kind and has coached a good D-1 program for 4 years.

Name me one successful college coach who didn't play in college or in the pros with no NFL experience who was instantly successful in the NFL as a head coach.

I can name you one NFL head coach who had all those prerequisites that you mentioned and has failed to have success in 2 seasons.....

I am not qualified enough to know for sure if this guy can translate his success to the NFL level, but 1 thing he does have that Rivera does not is a successful track record of being a head coach, albeit at the college level vs the pro's.

Also if Rivera was fired tommorow, I bet he does not get 1 team inquiring about him for their head coaching job, meanwhile Kelly has had several teams very interested in him and even 1 who thought they had him hired last year.

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Uh oh. Somebody forgot to wipe p55.

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