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#151 Password is Taco

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:45 PM

i will die laughing if we hire beane as gm.

i wouldnt even be mad

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:45 PM

i see no evidence supporting that.

its a maybe man. just speculating just like everyone else

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:46 PM

Most coaches aren't good their first couple years of coaching


You can't convince the haters. I wonder sometimes why they are even fans of the Panthers.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:47 PM

Most coaches aren't good their first couple years of coaching


Want me to run a comparison of how many turned it around after being horrible for 2 years versus how many just weren't good coaches?

Hint: One is much greater than the other

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:49 PM

Rivera was good when he got a fire lit under his ass. It will still be lit game 1 of next year. Happy Rivera got the Job.

Maybe if we hire beane he will be Rivera's Puppet. Rivera pretty much makes personel decisions, and if he fails, he along with beane will be out.


Just like Fox and Hurney. Oh wait.

Richardson's just buying additional scapegoats so people won't see his failure.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

Yep. We likely eliminated any top tier candidates once we made it known that the owner will be making decisions on his staff.


Almost every team with a GM vacancy has handled the HC separately. KC hired a coach, Cleveland is hiring Kelly, Jax has a coach, Jets have a coach. I've said it several times, if a "top tier" GM demands to pick their own staff, their choices are Cardinals or Chargers. That's it. We haven't eliminated anyone unless they'd rather take over one of those poo-shows.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:53 PM

Want me to run a comparison of how many turned it around after being horrible for 2 years versus how many just weren't good coaches?

Hint: One is much greater than the other

someone did that already.

it was as expected. most coaches who fail their first couple years find they are pretty good at it and never get it turned around.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:53 PM

Jonathan Jones describes the support Rivera had from the players as "overwhelming".

Says staff shakeup is a possibility, but not definite.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:54 PM

Almost every team with a GM vacancy has handled the HC separately. KC hired a coach, Cleveland is hiring Kelly, Jax has a coach, Jets have a coach. I've said it several times, if a "top tier" GM demands to pick their own staff, their choices are Cardinals or Chargers. That's it. We haven't eliminated anyone unless they'd rather take over one of those poo-shows.

if we had a winning team/coach i could see saying that the coach was off limits. if he was running a successful program it would make sense.

this team does nothing but not succeed.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:55 PM

Everybody do the Beane!!!

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:55 PM

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Lol, really? In the last decade please, the game has definitely changed since then. And even if it hadn't those are Hall of Fame HCs. I can name you 10x maybe as much HCs in the same time period who had epic fails.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:56 PM

Jonathan Jones describes the support Rivera had from the players as "overwhelming".

Says staff shakeup is a possibility, but not definite.

it's a shame they didn't show it until december when their coach was in danger of losing his job.

they may like their coach, but i don't know that he's capable of pulling the best out of them unless his job is on the line.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:57 PM

Lol, really? In the last decade please, the game has definitely changed since then. And even if it hadn't those are Hall of Fame HCs. I can name you 10x maybe as much HCs in the same time period who had epic fails.

but those guys are legendary. LEGENDARY!


and don't you tell me you can't find a QB stocking shelves at a grocery store! KURT FRIKKIN WARNER!!!!!!

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:59 PM

Almost every team with a GM vacancy has handled the HC separately. KC hired a coach, Cleveland is hiring Kelly, Jax has a coach, Jets have a coach. I've said it several times, if a "top tier" GM demands to pick their own staff, their choices are Cardinals or Chargers. That's it. We haven't eliminated anyone unless they'd rather take over one of those poo-shows.



KC knew they were going after Reid who was always going to want control over everything and bring in his own GM. Cleveland has been ran secretly (Not really a secret) By Lombardi and he's leaving the NFL network to take the job as GM. Kelly is his guy.
If Gamble gets the job in NY, he's got permission to fire Ryan at any time. It's the reason Ryan wasn't involved in the search. Gamble is most likely firing Ryan...

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

Jonathan Jones describes the support Rivera had from the players as "overwhelming".

Says staff shakeup is a possibility, but not definite.



First reported by Patty Y that the Panther's might shake up the staff, but no Coordinators would be involved.


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